XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: sci.archaeology   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/30/2025 5:51 AM, JTEM wrote:   
   >   
   > The story of Troy...   
   >   
   > They found the city, right?   
   >   
   > No. Of course not. They found a city and declared one of the layers   
   > in that archaeology "Troy" but, it's not Troy.   
   >   
   > There was never a Trojan War.   
   >   
   > First off, people had been "Finding" and identifying "Troy" for more   
   > than a century... elsewhere. And the man credited with finally   
   > closing the books on the popular location today was Heinrich   
   > Schliemann, a rich fraud. The moment he decided to put a shovel in   
   > the ground it was guaranteed he was either going to find something   
   > and call it Troy, or he was going to manufacture it...   
   >   
   > The Trojan War is based on the far more ancient tale of the siege   
   > of Joppa, under Thutmose III. This, in turn, is denounced by many   
   > to be as fictional as the later Greek retelling/renaming. Some   
   > have even argued that Joppa was recycled from an earlier tale   
   > exactly as Troy was...   
   >   
   > What's even more fascinating is that there's a similar case with   
   > Romeo and Juliet. There were contemporary versions floating   
   > around -- contemporary to Shakespeare & company. And the whole   
   > damn thing was based on the ancient story of Pyramus and Thisbe.   
   > But, between it and Shakespeare were numerous other "Child"   
   > works... and some even claim that Pyramus and Thisbe was itself   
   > based on earlier tales. But...   
   >   
   > But it's Troy and the Trojan War that draws the strongest parallels   
   > to the bible. After all, it includes gods & magic yet people STILL   
   > see it as true!   
   >   
   > "Everything old is new again"   
   >   
   > It's a myth. It's not real.   
   >   
      
   Why don't you just read the Wikipedia article:   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_War   
      
   If you disagree with what's there, then post comments on the Talk page   
   before having the edit war.   
      
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