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   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   JTEM wrote:   
   >   
   > So, how do you describe a ghosts?   
   >   
   > A foggy apparition?   
   >   
   > A disarticulated limb or head?   
   >   
   > A cold spot?   
   >   
   > Noises?   
   >   
   > A 100% normal appearing human that is later discovered   
   > to have died years ago?   
   >   
   > Objects moving or breaking, doors opening?   
   >   
   > Etc.   
   >   
   > Ghost are commonly described as ALL OF THE ABOVE!   
   >   
   > Hmm. If an animal was described with such wildly   
   > varying descriptions you'd conclude that people were   
   > seeing different animals. That, more than one animal   
   > was being given the same label...   
   >   
   > Why not ghosts? Why suddenly change the rules for   
   > ghosts?   
   >   
   > What I'm saying is that for pretty much another other   
   > thing, stepping away from the topic of the supernatural,   
   > the many varied descriptions of ghosts would EXCLUDE a   
   > single phenomenon at play.   
   >   
   > Yes, something that appears invisible and passes through   
   > solid matter would be a different phenomena than   
   > something that looks like an ordinary person and interacts   
   > with the world as a real person would.   
   >   
   > Two different things. And between them spans a number of   
   > other very different things...   
   >   
   > The simpleton approach would be to shout "They don't   
   > exist" and leave it at that. But, that is objectively   
   > false in many cases.   
   >   
   > There are noises. People do feel cold spots. There are   
   > EMFs detected. EVPs are recorded. Multiple witnesses do   
   > report the same sighting... on & on.   
   >   
   > The experiences are real and in countless cases external   
   > in origins. All I'm saying is that there's more than one   
   > explanation.   
   >   
   > More than two explanations.   
   >   
      
   i am open to there being remnants of kind... problem is trillions   
   of creatures have lived and died and i dont see any remnants.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)