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   Ilya Shambat to All   
   Beautiful Woman And Sexual Attraction   
   20 Jun 23 19:12:28   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   Some men envy me because I’ve been with a number of very beautiful women.   
   They want to know how I did it. My response is that I like these women, and I   
   am sympathetic to their concerns.   
      
   Any man would be attracted to a beautiful women. Not any man however would   
   value her as a person. Many beautiful women get treated as acquisition and   
   property, and it is refreshing to them to be with someone who values them as   
   people.   
      
   Now there are some people who think that there is something fishy about   
   finding a woman attractive. They say such things as that this is   
   “objectifying” women or not treating them as human beings. My response is   
   that there is no contradiction between    
   being attracted to a woman and valuing her as a person; and in my   
   relationships I have done both.   
      
   I was once with a woman who, when I said that I cared about her, asked, “If   
   you cared so much why did you want to get in my pants?” What kind of a   
   horrible thinking is that? Is it not possible to be attracted to someone and   
   care about her? Where does    
   this lead? I’ll tell you exactly where this leads. It leads to people having   
   sexual relationships with people they don’t care about, which relationships   
   can only turn bad.   
      
   Once someone on the Internet asked, “Does Ilya like all women or only pretty   
   women?” I’ve maintained very good friendships with women to whom I was not   
   attracted, and I’ve had a relationship with a woman who was heavy and   
   wheelchair-bound. I am    
   not shallow. I do however appreciate beauty in all things. That is as much the   
   case with such things as nature and art as it is the case with women.   
      
   So if you want to be with a beautiful woman, get to know her and understand   
   her concerns. Value her as a person rather than only as an acquisition. Many   
   of them are used to being treated as property, and being valued as a person   
   would be experienced by    
   them as a breath of fresh air. And then you can have good relationships with   
   the best women, however attractive or unattractive you may be.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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