From: rdh11.rh@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:13:16 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:   
   > On Sunday, 25 June 2023 at 08:49:51 UTC+10, tooly wrote:    
   > > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 7:50:17 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:    
   > > > This story about Cain and Abel is only a sick story, but it has a   
   purpose, to create trouble as trouble-making had and has great scope for   
   money-making. So capitalists love it.    
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   > > Arindam, as far as affirmation, I see you as a good guy. Intelligent.   
   Perhaps with some answers if only people listened [like with hyrdrogen   
   energy]. Hmmm..People listening? wish you would reconsider 'captialism'...but,   
   more as the simpler 'fact' of    
   free nature without individual intellectuals trying to oversee things [via   
   their ideas, like Karl Marx]. Capitalism, is in effect, simply NATURAL   
   ORDER...people dealing with one another without government interference [so   
   influenced by those so called    
   intellectuals]. Think on a personal level...where you, me, anyone, just wants   
   just deserve from their own ideas, own industry, labor, or knowhow or   
   'smarts'. FREEDOM is the answer. Government almost always causes, well, a   
   worse outcome. For us all.    
   Mostly. But we'll always perhaps try and remake 'nature' for better existence,   
   but usually, make it worse. Capitalism probably buffers us from    
   hat...hmm...flaw in governmental control.   
   > Capitalism is natural disorder, as it appeals to the worst human qualities.   
   Fear, greed, selfishness, to begin with, and wars and sicknesses to follow. It   
   is because of the capitalist swine and their cohorts that my new sciences and   
   technologies cannot    
   take off, for they fear new inventions will affect their obscene profits by   
   wars and pollutions.   
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   'Fear, greed, Selfishness...'?  How fearful are those under government that   
   REQUIRES allegiance, where if one does NOT acquiesce to prescribed 'thought',   
   they are assigned to, well...gulags at the worst, but in modern times...just   
   'canceled'?  What kind    
   of world is that...except the masses 'living in'...as you say, 'FEAR'?     
   "Greed"?  Do you seek to maximize your wealth? TO seek your 'best' outcome for   
   personal gain? Sure you do? I do too? We all ...survey the environment, and   
   make decisions based on our 'best sense' of personal outcome.  Is that GREED?    
   No, that is '   
   rational'.  Don't judge capitalism by the very few that obtain extraordinary   
   outcomes [the billionaires per se]., but more by the OPPORTUNITIES that accrue   
   from people FREE to pursue their own ideas of happiness.  We all benefit from   
   that FREEDOM. The    
   key word here is FREE.  Yes, wealth does provide some with undo influence and   
   even power, but there is no governmental wall put before us, that any one of   
   us, if we are clever enough, if we are intelligent enough, if our creativity   
   provides something    
   truly valuable to the whole...that we can't become part of that POWER   
   [wealth].  And to pursue our own creativity, our own productivity, our own   
   ability to achieve in this world...that is that answer.    
      
   Yes, there are...well...less than ideal outcomes in that wealth [of the few   
   who do succeed]. But far far far better than government politicos trying to   
   decide the winner and losers by way of their very prejudicial leanings...and   
   often negating FREEDOM    
   itself among the citizenry [if they even still comply to the idea of   
   'citizen']?  History is RIFE with examples...most all experiments into   
   socialism, marxism, or those that profess 'for the people' but end up   
   murdering millions to stay their power.   
      
   No, in spite of its flaws [mainly unequal distribution of wealth], there is   
   nothing human beings have come up with that even comes close to allowing the   
   fuller potential of that human creativity to aspire to make things better for   
   that WHOLE.  Socialism,    
   for example, cannot compete ECONOMICALLY with capitalism..nada, no way.    
   Socialism has only ONE argument and that is of EQUALITY.  But that is a BOGUS   
   argument for EQUALITY is a human notion 'created' from fantasy; a world that   
   we'd all like, but in    
   truth cannot exist [literally]...'cuz, well in nature nothing is EQUAL, but we   
   all exist along hierarchies of ability, creativity, intelligence, and know   
   how.   Equal opportunity, yes, very doable; equal outcomes, a 'nightmare'   
   longing of the weak and    
   under attributed.  The system that allows our 'BEST' to arise from among us,   
   is our best bet to allow our BEST possible world for ALL OF US.  And that my   
   dear Friend [and I do see you as friend no matter how we might disagree]...Is   
   not so much 'captalism'   
   ...but FREEDOM.  BE FREE.  Pursue your dreams.  And be very very wary of   
   GOVERNMENT that offers promises, but curtails that FREEDOM.  Government does   
   NOT define us. Humanity seeks a deeper identity based in moral sense of higher   
   order. But FREEDOM is...   
   that nutrient of greatest NEED that we become our very BEST and life remain   
   WORTHWHILE.  Where FREEDOM is extinguished, so also our SOUL...and in time,   
   our very selves.  Capitalism is really just FREEDOM...as explained in FREE   
   MARKETS.  Where no    
   government can go [except in the most clear circumstances, like public goods   
   and bads].     
      
   May you be well and prosper.   [Ha, as Spock might say].   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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