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   Ilya Shambat to All   
   Clarifying My Views   
   25 Jun 23 04:03:08   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   Based on the input of a number of people, I would like to clarify my views on   
   feminism.   
      
   First a bit of background. I had negative experiences with feminists. They   
   were nasty to me. I got called such things as a misogynist and a male pig.    
      
   No, I am not a misogynist. I translated books of poetry by three Russian women   
   poets into English. I’ve worked under women bosses. I admire the works of   
   Mary Shelley, Elizabeth Browning, Edna St. Vincent-Millay, Dorothy Parker and   
   Ayn Rand. I supported    
   Hillary Clinton’s bid for president. I had an equal-power relationship with   
   my wife, and I’ve been a loving father to my daughter.   
      
   More people need to know not to cry wolf. If you accuse me of being a   
   misogynist, you make yourself and others not credible when met with a real   
   one. I have dealt with misogynists. They called me a pussywhipped idiot and a   
   male feminist. These women need    
   to know more men like them in order to have things in perspective.   
      
   Even so I am sympathetic to the goals of feminism. A woman who doesn’t want   
   to depend on a man should have that option in life. I have a daughter. I   
   don’t want her to wind up a punching bag for some jerk. But neither do I   
   want her to be abused by    
   other women in the workplace, as happened to my former wife. A woman who is   
   dependent on a man would be in a bad way if the man chooses to act like a   
   bastard. But she would be also dealing with many bastards if she were to have   
   a career.   
      
   Feminists need to stop attacking wrong people. Right now, they attack men   
   nearest the liberal centers of learning and culture who are the least   
   misogynistic men out there, while failing to confront men who are genuinely   
   misogynistic. These, in turn, use    
   misconduct by feminists to press their case that women are evil and should be   
   kept down. I have not seen feminists taking on these men. I have, and so to a   
   much greater extent has my former wife. She got no help in it from the   
   feminists. It is easier to    
   yell at me than it is to confront real enemies.   
      
   So I would like to clarify where I stand. I support the goals of feminism. I   
   oppose their tactics. I do not deserve to be called a misogynist. If you   
   attack someone who does not wish you ill, you leave way for someone who does.   
   And of these there are    
   plenty.    
      
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