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|    Message 168,375 of 170,335    |
|    Jeffrey Rubard to Jeffrey Rubard    |
|    Re: Marxist Dialectical Materialism (1/2    |
|    25 Jun 23 14:27:34    |
      From: theleasthappyfella@gmail.com              On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 8:39:57 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:       > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:43:46 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 9:11:49 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:04:14 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard       wrote:        > > > > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:25:23 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard       wrote:        > > > > > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard       wrote:        > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard       wrote:        > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:25:23 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard       wrote:        > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:21:38 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey       Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 8:33:12 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey       Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey       Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 8:20:23 AM UTC-7,       Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 2:04:15 PM UTC-7,       Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:49:26 PM UTC-7,       Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 12:46:00 PM       UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 1:02:46 PM UTC-7,       Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 8:38:23 AM       UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:34:14 AM       UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:34:10 AM       UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at       8:26:51 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at       3:30:46 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at       11:48:46 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at       10:52:54 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at       12:47:55 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at       12:05:39 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 7, 2023       at 11:19:03 PM UTC-7, Julio Di Egidio wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 7 June 2023       at 20:48:07 UTC+2, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Well, see, Marx was a       materialist and..."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You fucking spambot, lest       anybody not miss something        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not totally false about       philosophy and Marxism in particular.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ESAD, you and the whole       nazi retarded brigade.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "On the other hand, it's       really not true that Marxists as a whole, unlike Jean-Luc Nancy,        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were members of the       nazi-retarded brigade. (Look, he *really was*.)"        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "You would be unsure to say       whether, for example, Karl Kautsky was already 'nazi-retarded' or not."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Althusser and his school would       definitely have disputed that they were 'nazi-retarded', but careful        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consideration of the French       culture and society of their time shows that..."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "What about Engels, though?"        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Hilary Putnam thought       something of Engels's philosophical work...        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "You're kidding."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it's in some of his papers if       memory serves.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Was he nazi-retarded, then?"        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, he was highly intelligent about       them.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I think, being Jewish, he must have       been nazi-retarded."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Highly dubious. He probably never even       'rode the short bus' at all.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "What about Adorno and Horkheimer?"        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is some question as to whether they       even retarded the Nazis themselves.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't like you."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a common feeling.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ironically: "Oh, I get it. I can just see       Adorno 'getting retarded', he's all loose and relaxed..."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Ironically: "Gretel Adorno is a little       bit of a puzzle to me, actually."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "WTF does Gretel Adorno have to do with       anything?"        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was Theodor Adorno's wife.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "She was?"        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's said to be so. Is there a reason to doubt       the statement, you think?        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Perhaps not."        > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good, glad you can stand to "countenance"       something.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I get this. Hilary Putnam was Jewish?"        > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, although you could easily not appreciate this,       covered as it was with a sort of 'patina'.        > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Are you Jewish?"        > > > > > > > > > > > > > No.        > > > > > > > > > > > > "Engels, too?"        > > > > > > > > > > > > Germans don't find this a confusing one, I don't       think.        > > > > > > > > > > > "What about Althusser, then?"        > > > > > > > > > > > He was from Algeria. They called those people *pieds       noirs*...        > > > > > > > > > > "Well, Kautsky, as a good German..."        > > > > > > > > > > See, there are 'limits to understanding', huh?        > > > > > > > > > "Was Marx German?"               [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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