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   Message 168,375 of 170,335   
   Jeffrey Rubard to Jeffrey Rubard   
   Re: Marxist Dialectical Materialism (1/2   
   25 Jun 23 14:27:34   
   
   From: theleasthappyfella@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 8:39:57 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:   
   > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:43:46 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 9:11:49 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 12:04:14 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard   
   wrote:    
   > > > > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:25:23 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:25:23 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:21:38 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey   
   Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 8:33:12 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey   
   Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey   
   Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 8:20:23 AM UTC-7,   
   Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 2:04:15 PM UTC-7,   
   Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:49:26 PM UTC-7,   
   Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 12:46:00 PM   
   UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 1:02:46 PM UTC-7,   
   Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 8:38:23 AM   
   UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:34:14 AM   
   UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 8:34:10 AM   
   UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at   
   8:26:51 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at   
   3:30:46 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at   
   11:48:46 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at   
   10:52:54 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at   
   12:47:55 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at   
   12:05:39 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 7, 2023   
   at 11:19:03 PM UTC-7, Julio Di Egidio wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 7 June 2023   
   at 20:48:07 UTC+2, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Well, see, Marx was a   
   materialist and..."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You fucking spambot, lest   
   anybody not miss something    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not totally false about   
   philosophy and Marxism in particular.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ESAD, you and the whole   
   nazi retarded brigade.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "On the other hand, it's   
   really not true that Marxists as a whole, unlike Jean-Luc Nancy,    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were members of the   
   nazi-retarded brigade. (Look, he *really was*.)"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "You would be unsure to say   
   whether, for example, Karl Kautsky was already 'nazi-retarded' or not."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Althusser and his school would   
   definitely have disputed that they were 'nazi-retarded', but careful    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consideration of the French   
   culture and society of their time shows that..."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "What about Engels, though?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Hilary Putnam thought   
   something of Engels's philosophical work...    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "You're kidding."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it's in some of his papers if   
   memory serves.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Was he nazi-retarded, then?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, he was highly intelligent about   
   them.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I think, being Jewish, he must have   
   been nazi-retarded."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Highly dubious. He probably never even   
   'rode the short bus' at all.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "What about Adorno and Horkheimer?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is some question as to whether they   
   even retarded the Nazis themselves.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't like you."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a common feeling.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ironically: "Oh, I get it. I can just see   
   Adorno 'getting retarded', he's all loose and relaxed..."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Ironically: "Gretel Adorno is a little   
   bit of a puzzle to me, actually."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "WTF does Gretel Adorno have to do with   
   anything?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was Theodor Adorno's wife.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "She was?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's said to be so. Is there a reason to doubt   
   the statement, you think?    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Perhaps not."    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good, glad you can stand to "countenance"   
   something.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I get this. Hilary Putnam was Jewish?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, although you could easily not appreciate this,   
   covered as it was with a sort of 'patina'.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Are you Jewish?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > No.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > "Engels, too?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Germans don't find this a confusing one, I don't   
   think.    
   > > > > > > > > > > > "What about Althusser, then?"    
   > > > > > > > > > > > He was from Algeria. They called those people *pieds   
   noirs*...    
   > > > > > > > > > > "Well, Kautsky, as a good German..."    
   > > > > > > > > > > See, there are 'limits to understanding', huh?    
   > > > > > > > > > "Was Marx German?"    
      
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