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   Message 168,389 of 170,348   
   Ilya Shambat to Arindam Banerjee   
   Re: Putin And Russia's Social Problems   
   26 Jun 23 19:12:55   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:22:31 AM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:   
   > On Monday, 26 June 2023 at 22:26:36 UTC+10, Ilya Shambat wrote:    
   > > The worst problem with Russia is what is known as the dedovschina. It is   
   brutal military hazing that costs countless lives. It also costs Russia   
   because families move abroad to avoid for their children the deadly conditions   
   of Russian military. Since    
   dedovschina is worst on the intellectual (as opposed to the brutal) type, the   
   result is vast brain drain – both through killing in it and through   
   emigration. The people who die from it and the people who move abroad are   
   Russia’s best minds. And    
   Russia loses vastly from it. Some people think that it makes people stronger.   
   No, it makes Russia weak.   
   > Does not look like it. They were supposed to collapse after the sanctions   
   but they are doing better than ever. Putin has done lwonders for Russia, no   
   doubt about that. They still make top military hardware, have support of the   
   thirdworld   
      
   Yeah, but that's not because of dedovschina. Once again, dedovschina causes   
   brain drain, and that weakens Russia.   
      
   > > Another is domestic violence. 14,000 Russian women a year die from it.   
   Russian women are smart, strong, beautiful and family-oriented; but their men   
   treat them like dirt. These men are a bunch of brats. They haven’t had to   
   deal with women who are    
   actually bad, as they claim women to be. Instead they have at their disposal   
   some of the best women in the world, and all they can think to do is use them   
   as punching bags.   
   > Russian women are very powerful. So our tour guides said. After WW2 there   
   were very few men left alive so the women had to build up the state. That is   
   the general case. In Communist countries gender equality is considered natural   
   and normal.    
      
   My grandmother was a Communist, and yes, she was a very powerful woman. My   
   mother and her did not get along, as my mother wanted to go to America. Fancy   
   two strong-headed women with completely incompatible convictions, and one is a   
   mother and the other    
   is a daughter.   
      
   > Unfortunately domestic violence is there as you say, but Russia is not the   
   only country where it happens.    
      
   Of course. It's a big problem in Australia as well. Melanie did some work to   
   fight domestic violence in Australia, and I supported her in it.   
      
   > Putin has done what he could in this matter, going by his talks.   
   Monotheistic states following Jewish metaphysics are naturally misogynistic,   
   blaming Eve and from her example all women for lack of Paradise.   
      
   I am against that as well. What these people need to be told is that it is not   
   right to punish someone for the sins of someone over whom she had no   
   influence. As a Jew I refuse to be blamed for the actions of Harvey Weinstein,   
   as I had no influence on    
   him.   
      
   > Pushkin was part black and that did not prevent him from getting recognised   
   as Russia's greatest poet. So they do value quality. The non-racism of the   
   white skinned Russians, to the brown Indians, and their many other good   
   qualities, as opposed to the    
   filtering, sneering and exploitative Anglo racist bigots, was startling; paved   
   the way for Indo-soviet friendship.   
      
   When I was in school in Soviet Union there was a delegation there from India.   
   Apparently Soviets and Indians got along well. However I also knew an Indian   
   man who called Indira Gandhi a bitch and said that under her all the good   
   stuff in India went to    
   the Soviet Union.   
      
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