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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Society And Corruption    |
|    26 Jun 23 21:33:35    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              There have been some conservatives who have been claiming that the people on       the Left are destroying society. I have things to say on the subject.              It is inevitable that people will form societies. What is not inevitable is       that these societies be tyrannical and corrupt. And the societies that these       people have formed have been both.              They have high levels of incest. They have high levels of domestic violence.       They have an anti-intellectual attitude and extreme conformity pressures. For       as long as these practices go on in the name of society, that discredits       society. And this leads        the sincere people to become antisocial.              When someone claims to speak for society, he must be challenged. That is       because what we have here is an authority that is unelected, unofficial,       unaccountable, unchecked and unbalanced – that as such has nothing to keep       it from becoming tyrannical and        corrupt. If you want your society to wield authority, make it official. Pass       it into law. Subject it to accountability, check and balance. Otherwise what       we have here is a sneaky totalitarianism that controls people’s lives       without there being any        check and balance upon it.              So no, the people on the Left are not evil. Many of them are more sincere than       the average person. They make the mistake of confusing the abuses of the value       for the value itself. They see abuses done in the name of society and mistake       it for society        itself. This is wrong. Society can, and should, be done better.              Should we do away with society? By no means. But we do need to prevent it from       becoming tyrannical and corrupt. Practices such as incest, domestic violence       and extreme conformity pressures should be confronted. Wrong things done in       the name of society        must be abolished. And then society itself will survive without being       associated with things that are wrong.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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