From: banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, 27 June 2023 at 12:12:56 UTC+10, Ilya Shambat wrote:   
   > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:22:31 AM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:    
   > > On Monday, 26 June 2023 at 22:26:36 UTC+10, Ilya Shambat wrote:    
   > > > The worst problem with Russia is what is known as the dedovschina. It is   
   brutal military hazing that costs countless lives. It also costs Russia   
   because families move abroad to avoid for their children the deadly conditions   
   of Russian military.    
   Since dedovschina is worst on the intellectual (as opposed to the brutal)   
   type, the result is vast brain drain – both through killing in it and   
   through emigration. The people who die from it and the people who move abroad   
   are Russia’s best minds. And    
   Russia loses vastly from it. Some people think that it makes people stronger.   
   No, it makes Russia weak.    
   > > Does not look like it. They were supposed to collapse after the sanctions   
   but they are doing better than ever. Putin has done lwonders for Russia, no   
   doubt about that. They still make top military hardware, have support of the   
   thirdworld   
   > Yeah, but that's not because of dedovschina. Once again, dedovschina causes   
   brain drain, and that weakens Russia.   
   Evidently that does not suit you, Ilya. But you show that with harsh their   
   training they must be terrific soldiers. Brains are not important in a   
   militaristic society, save at the very top. If all that harshness drives   
   brains out, so much the better for    
   all. I know you are fine here. And you were not wanted in Russia.   
      
   > > > Another is domestic violence. 14,000 Russian women a year die from it.   
   Russian women are smart, strong, beautiful and family-oriented; but their men   
   treat them like dirt. These men are a bunch of brats. They haven’t had to   
   deal with women who are    
   actually bad, as they claim women to be. Instead they have at their disposal   
   some of the best women in the world, and all they can think to do is use them   
   as punching bags.    
   > > Russian women are very powerful. So our tour guides said. After WW2 there   
   were very few men left alive so the women had to build up the state. That is   
   the general case. In Communist countries gender equality is considered natural   
   and normal.   
   > My grandmother was a Communist, and yes, she was a very powerful woman. My   
   mother and her did not get along, as my mother wanted to go to America. Fancy   
   two strong-headed women with completely incompatible convictions, and one is a   
   mother and the other    
   is a daughter.   
   > > Unfortunately domestic violence is there as you say, but Russia is not the   
   only country where it happens.   
   > Of course. It's a big problem in Australia as well. Melanie did some work to   
   fight domestic violence in Australia, and I supported her in it.   
   > > Putin has done what he could in this matter, going by his talks.   
   Monotheistic states following Jewish metaphysics are naturally misogynistic,   
   blaming Eve and from her example all women for lack of Paradise.   
   > I am against that as well. What these people need to be told is that it is   
   not right to punish someone for the sins of someone over whom she had no   
   influence. As a Jew I refuse to be blamed for the actions of Harvey Weinstein,   
   as I had no influence on    
   him.   
   You need then to say that women should not be punished for the action of Eve,   
   as that is just an old story of no modern significance, and must be forgotten   
   or taken lightly at best.   
      
   > > Pushkin was part black and that did not prevent him from getting   
   recognised as Russia's greatest poet. So they do value quality. The non-racism   
   of the white skinned Russians, to the brown Indians, and their many other good   
   qualities, as opposed to    
   the filtering, sneering and exploitative Anglo racist bigots, was startling;   
   paved the way for Indo-soviet friendship.   
   > When I was in school in Soviet Union there was a delegation there from   
   India. Apparently Soviets and Indians got along well. However I also knew an   
   Indian man who called Indira Gandhi a bitch and said that under her all the   
   good stuff in India went to    
   the Soviet Union.   
      
   I understand, that chap probably wanted to get more by selling to the West.   
   Indira Gandhi was a populist, but that did not work when she started placing   
   family over nation.   
      
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