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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Are the sociopaths incurably evil?    |
|    01 Jul 23 04:11:56    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              People with the “antisocial personality disorder,” also known as       “sociopaths,” are known to be experts at manipulation. I have a good idea       as to why that is.              These people do not have what is thought of as regular human emotions. If you       do not have regular human emotions, then you will have to use your mind to       figure out what everyone else takes for granted. And that will give you       profound insight into the        subject, that will then give you an ability to understand – and successfully       manipulate - other people.              There have been many people with mental illness – such as Nietzsche, Blake,       R.D. Laing, Dostoyevsky and Thomas Edison – who developed brilliant and       original insight. They were not like other people, but they understood other       people better than other        people understood themselves. Similarly I, as a non-native English speaker, am       frequently praised for my command of the English language. That is because I       had to learn English consciously rather than unconsciously. And if you learn       something consciously        rather than unconsciously, then you will understand it better than someone       whose learning has been unconscious.              I am not a sociopath; far from it. My score on the sociopath dimension of DSM       has been less than that of an average person, and a woman with education in       social work told me that I am “psychopath's jelly”: Someone naïve enough       to fall for their gag        and someone strange enough that they can blame me for it. But I take objection       to the idea that sociopaths are evil and can only be evil whatever they do –       as someone said on the Internet, they by definition cannot be good people.       That idea is        completely irrational. Anyone with a capacity for choice can choose to act       rightfully, even if they are sociopaths. Yes, many of these people use their       skills for wrong things. But they can also use them for ends that are       rightful, and there are many        sociopaths who become CEOs, surgeons, CIA agents and other highly contributing       citizens.              Indeed I posit that many of these people, if they make an effort to choose to       act rightfully, will not only be good people but be better people than people       who are good-natured. There were many people in the Bible who started out as       scoundrels but then        came to God and became not only good but effective preachers of good. There       are many alcoholics who join AA and learn in AA good values and moral       character, and any number of them develop a better character than many       non-alcoholics. The man who wrote “       Amazing Grace” started out as a slave ship owner; then he educated a man in       England who became a parliamentarian and ended England's use of slaves. If you       have come from Point A to Point B, then you will understand what it means to       be at Point B than        someone who's always been there. A person who started out as bad and then       became good will understand what it means to be good better than someone who's       always been good.              In short, a person who has to learn something consciously will understand it       better than someone whose learning has been unconscious. A person who does not       have regular human emotions will develop a keener understanding of people than       would a normal        person, and this will allow him to either manipulate people for selfish ends       or to understand people enough to do rightful and meaningful things. If       someone is a sociopath, the correct solution is to give him a functional       ethical structure. Then he will        use what is in many cases extraordinary home-bred knowledge for ends that are       rightful, and he could become not only a good person but also a major       contributor to the world.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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