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   Message 168,466 of 170,335   
   Jeffrey Rubard to Arindam Banerjee   
   Re: Superpolitics   
   06 Jul 23 08:21:43   
   
   From: theleasthappyfella@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 4:15:41 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:   
   > On Thursday, 6 July 2023 at 01:46:57 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 5:44:21 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:    
   > > > On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 01:22:32 UTC+10, bruce bowser wrote:    
   > > > > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:27:33 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:    
   > > > > > On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 09:22:40 UTC+10, bruce bowser wrote:    
   > > > > > > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 7:16:14 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > > > High time AI replaced politicians as well.    
   > > > > > > But, AI can't feel the pain of punishments that it would   
   administer. Can it?    
   > > > > > nor the joys like fat salaries, fames, infames, awards, pensions   
   etc.    
   > > > > > AI: cheap, reliable, will work 7*24, will allow upgrades, save on   
   election moneys and promises...    
   > > > > > No wonder Asimov wrote that a good well-programmed robot would save   
   humanity from itself.    
   > > > > But would one slightly less save humanity?    
   > > > Anything better than politicians will save humanity. It won't be   
   difficult to make a machine system far better.    
   > > > In fact, the idea I had about googling (which I initiated with my paper   
   in 1987) came from the notion of superpolitics, that in turn inspired by   
   Asimov's robot-in-charge.    
   > > > Superpolitics means direct democracy, with interested participants for   
   every issue voting directly and making decisions.    
   > > > Machines conduct the whole thing, monitor results, make reports and   
   distribute.    
   > > > Much like internet today, only much more focussed, organised,   
   democratic, etc. and tamper-proof from trolls, etc. Anti-troll software, big   
   issue.    
   > > > No politicians, only people using machines.    
   > > > Which is what machines are for.    
   > > > Cheers,    
   > > > Arindam Banerjee    
   > > Is this supposed to be anything like Alain Badiou's "Metapolitics"?   
   > No, just getting rid of politicians, the way we get rid of researchers with   
   google, chatbox, etc.    
      
   No, we really don't. (Also, are you just a "contrarian" politician? They're   
   really a more tiresome species than reported.)   
      
   > And getting direct democracy, as opposed to representative democracy, which   
   is not the same thing as a one-party system like Marxism with a human dictator   
   at the top and slaves below.    
      
   Early, and often: "This is a hoax, isn't it?"   
      
   > The Athenian democracy, while very limited, was a direct democracy. It was   
   quite singular, as other Greek states had oligarchs, kings, etc.    
      
   Yeah, uh, it was also 2,500 years ago so has some very limited relevance for   
   our modern age.   
      
   > Here all are masters, and the robots simply do the jobs of politicians   
   properly.    
      
   Good of the "robots"?   
   "What?"   
   Karel Capek's word, originally...   
      
   > This follows from Asimov's vision of the future - with one android robot,   
   seen as a human, brilliantly doing all the great works that cannot be done by   
   stupid bickering unprincipled corrupt pols.   
      
   "I think you are pretty dense."   
      
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