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|    Jeffrey Rubard to Arindam Banerjee    |
|    Re: Superpolitics    |
|    06 Jul 23 08:21:43    |
      From: theleasthappyfella@gmail.com              On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 4:15:41 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:       > On Thursday, 6 July 2023 at 01:46:57 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:        > > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 5:44:21 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:        > > > On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 01:22:32 UTC+10, bruce bowser wrote:        > > > > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:27:33 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:        > > > > > On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 09:22:40 UTC+10, bruce bowser wrote:        > > > > > > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 7:16:14 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee       wrote:        > > > > > > > High time AI replaced politicians as well.        > > > > > > But, AI can't feel the pain of punishments that it would       administer. Can it?        > > > > > nor the joys like fat salaries, fames, infames, awards, pensions       etc.        > > > > > AI: cheap, reliable, will work 7*24, will allow upgrades, save on       election moneys and promises...        > > > > > No wonder Asimov wrote that a good well-programmed robot would save       humanity from itself.        > > > > But would one slightly less save humanity?        > > > Anything better than politicians will save humanity. It won't be       difficult to make a machine system far better.        > > > In fact, the idea I had about googling (which I initiated with my paper       in 1987) came from the notion of superpolitics, that in turn inspired by       Asimov's robot-in-charge.        > > > Superpolitics means direct democracy, with interested participants for       every issue voting directly and making decisions.        > > > Machines conduct the whole thing, monitor results, make reports and       distribute.        > > > Much like internet today, only much more focussed, organised,       democratic, etc. and tamper-proof from trolls, etc. Anti-troll software, big       issue.        > > > No politicians, only people using machines.        > > > Which is what machines are for.        > > > Cheers,        > > > Arindam Banerjee        > > Is this supposed to be anything like Alain Badiou's "Metapolitics"?       > No, just getting rid of politicians, the way we get rid of researchers with       google, chatbox, etc.               No, we really don't. (Also, are you just a "contrarian" politician? They're       really a more tiresome species than reported.)              > And getting direct democracy, as opposed to representative democracy, which       is not the same thing as a one-party system like Marxism with a human dictator       at the top and slaves below.               Early, and often: "This is a hoax, isn't it?"              > The Athenian democracy, while very limited, was a direct democracy. It was       quite singular, as other Greek states had oligarchs, kings, etc.               Yeah, uh, it was also 2,500 years ago so has some very limited relevance for       our modern age.              > Here all are masters, and the robots simply do the jobs of politicians       properly.               Good of the "robots"?       "What?"       Karel Capek's word, originally...              > This follows from Asimov's vision of the future - with one android robot,       seen as a human, brilliantly doing all the great works that cannot be done by       stupid bickering unprincipled corrupt pols.              "I think you are pretty dense."              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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