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   Message 168,467 of 170,335   
   Arindam Banerjee to Jeffrey Rubard   
   Re: Superpolitics   
   06 Jul 23 17:37:13   
   
   From: banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, 7 July 2023 at 01:21:46 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:   
   > On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 4:15:41 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:    
   > > On Thursday, 6 July 2023 at 01:46:57 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:    
   > > > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 5:44:21 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee   
   wrote:    
   > > > > On Monday, 3 July 2023 at 01:22:32 UTC+10, bruce bowser wrote:    
   > > > > > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:27:33 AM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > > On Sunday, 2 July 2023 at 09:22:40 UTC+10, bruce bowser wrote:    
   > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 7:16:14 PM UTC-4, Arindam   
   Banerjee wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > High time AI replaced politicians as well.    
   > > > > > > > But, AI can't feel the pain of punishments that it would   
   administer. Can it?    
   > > > > > > nor the joys like fat salaries, fames, infames, awards, pensions   
   etc.    
   > > > > > > AI: cheap, reliable, will work 7*24, will allow upgrades, save on   
   election moneys and promises...    
   > > > > > > No wonder Asimov wrote that a good well-programmed robot would   
   save humanity from itself.    
   > > > > > But would one slightly less save humanity?    
   > > > > Anything better than politicians will save humanity. It won't be   
   difficult to make a machine system far better.    
   > > > > In fact, the idea I had about googling (which I initiated with my   
   paper in 1987) came from the notion of superpolitics, that in turn inspired by   
   Asimov's robot-in-charge.    
   > > > > Superpolitics means direct democracy, with interested participants for   
   every issue voting directly and making decisions.    
   > > > > Machines conduct the whole thing, monitor results, make reports and   
   distribute.    
   > > > > Much like internet today, only much more focussed, organised,   
   democratic, etc. and tamper-proof from trolls, etc. Anti-troll software, big   
   issue.    
   > > > > No politicians, only people using machines.    
   > > > > Which is what machines are for.    
   > > > > Cheers,    
   > > > > Arindam Banerjee    
   > > > Is this supposed to be anything like Alain Badiou's "Metapolitics"?    
   > > No, just getting rid of politicians, the way we get rid of researchers   
   with google, chatbox, etc.   
   > No, we really don't. (Also, are you just a "contrarian" politician? They're   
   really a more tiresome species than reported.)   
   In theory we do here and in practice when, the sooner the better, with the   
   politicians who are obsolete.   
      
   > > And getting direct democracy, as opposed to representative democracy,   
   which is not the same thing as a one-party system like Marxism with a human   
   dictator at the top and slaves below.   
   > Early, and often: "This is a hoax, isn't it?"   
   You are an idiot, right?   
      
   > > The Athenian democracy, while very limited, was a direct democracy. It was   
   quite singular, as other Greek states had oligarchs, kings, etc.   
   > Yeah, uh, it was also 2,500 years ago so has some very limited relevance for   
   our modern age.   
   The pols and their hangers-on live in designs copied from them.   
      
   > > Here all are masters, and the robots simply do the jobs of politicians   
   properly.   
   > Good of the "robots"?    
   > "What?"    
   > Karel Capek's word, originally...   
   > > This follows from Asimov's vision of the future - with one android robot,   
   seen as a human, brilliantly doing all the great works that cannot be done by   
   stupid bickering unprincipled corrupt pols.   
   > "I think you are pretty dense."   
      
   I think nothing about you.   
      
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