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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Trojan War and Marital Separation    |
|    17 Jul 23 22:11:35    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              According to some people, Menelaus was right to start the Trojan War because       his wife left him to be with another man.              By that standard Russia should invade America because there are many Russian       women married to American men.              Now Paris and Helen were frequently accused of hubris; but the hubris of       Menelaus was far greater. He thought that his possessive interest over his       wife justified him in leading a whole country into war and destroying a whole       city. My wife left me as        well, but I never did anything similar.              Greeks are known for having been misogynistic; and there are two sources of       that influence. One is the wrong lessons learned from Trojan War. The other is       a result of having ridiculously high expectations for women. If you have       unrealistic expectations,        you will be disappointed with most of what you get. So they expected of women       ridiculous things and became misogynistic when the women couldn’t meet these       expectations. They passed down this disastrous attitude to posterity, and       women today keep        suffering as a result.              As for the Trojan War, wrong lessons have been learned from it. Some people       see romantic love as vanity; but I’ve known matches made by scientists and       military people of World War II generation that started with love at first       sight and were still going        strong when the parties were in their 90s. And while Iliad blames Paris and       Helen for the war, the true villain was Menelaus.              It is inevitable that people will make romantic attachments. It is also       inevitable that these get challenged. This reality needs to be dealt with as       all human realities. People must solve such situations in a peaceful and       civilized manner. Having        maintained a positive relationship with my former wife, I know that this is       possible. And I highly recommend that path to other men.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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