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   Dim Witte to Dim Witte   
   Re: political philosophies   
   02 Aug 23 04:39:17   
   
   From: dakadldo2@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-8, Dim Witte wrote:   
   > What with the world evolving collectively now, must be we be aware of   
   several political philosophies, at least in general. Probably true that each   
   major political system has within in variations, if only because man must   
   muster understanding in local    
   ways.    
   >    
   > U.S. is a good example of politics and political parties shaping up, with   
   more than one philosophy assumed to be at odds.    
   >    
   > Supposedly, U.S. is a republican democracy, as I understand it, practicing   
   and defending democracy in many ways, based on a written constitution defended   
   by a supreme court, and a republic for providing peoples representatives.    
   >    
   > Other countries that like to be counted as democracies, like Sweden, Norway,   
   Finland, Denmark, are known to be socialist, with private enterprise managed   
   by central government. Even Russia has said it's a democracy for the way its   
   central communist    
   party represents the people. Other countries, too, like Taiwan and even China   
   to some extent show respect for democratic institutions, evidently.    
   >    
   > Then there is state socialism, where the state manages it all in a sort of   
   totalitarianism of controlling all industries and services. We assume China,   
   North Korea, Cuba, and other socialist countries are bent toward state   
   socialism.    
   >    
   > I'm talking off the top of my head about political philosophies, without   
   real knowledge enough to even characterize well how world cultures are shaping   
   up. It does seem as though even the U.S. will develop more socialism than it   
   already has in terms of    
   government programs and agency oversight. No doubt Medicare and Medicaid will   
   evolve into something better than we have now, and many would like something   
   like what Canada has.    
   >    
   > More federal government and less state government seems to be the direction   
   we're going, when you look at all the leftist political movements celebrated   
   by news media. In terms of government vs. chaos, U.S. is showing more chaos   
   every day at national,    
   state, and city levels. Not sure what the digital age brings upon us.    
   >    
   > Question, too, is whether nations like in Africa and South America are   
   unable to become democratic republics and might benefit from socialist   
   governments. Evidently both Russia and China are making moves that way.   
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   Evidently no good assuming that the ancient idea of political philosophy can't   
   be described in terms of thesis-antithesis-synthesis, as in Hegels description   
   of it, because of the assumption that inevitably this proceeds to an ideal   
   state must be wrong,    
   since change is in the nature of all.  So where does this leave communism and   
   its stages?  Not sure whether Russia wants to go back to a "soviet union" with   
   all the old block states.  Not sure if China sees its social reforms leading   
   to an ideal state    
   either, beyond reintegrating Hong Kong and Taiwan.   
      
   Perhaps such speculation about how the world is shaping up at least allows   
   some pragmatic adjustments, not all-out military invasion--occupation--regime   
   change as the U.S. did in the Middle East.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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