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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    The Valid and the Invalid    |
|    20 Sep 23 15:19:07    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              There are many situations in which people mistake the value for the abuses of       the value. This leads them to throw away what is valid along with what is       invalid.              Valid: Confronting abuse against unattractive people. Invalid: militating       against family, beauty and love.              Valid: Wanting business to treat workers better. Invalid: advocating for       slaughters of propertied class.              Valid: Seeking more responsible treatment of the environment. Invalid:       attacking scientific and technological progress.              Valid: loving your ethnic group. Invalid: hating other ethnic groups.              What we see in such situations, once again, is confusion between the value and       the misuses of the value. That stupid teenagers and unethical plastic surgeons       do wrong things for beauty does not damn beauty; it damns them. That some in       business are ugly        to their workers does not damn the propertied; it damns them. That some people       see environmental protection as incompatible with the goals of capitalism does       not damn capitalism; it damns them. That some people think that patriotism       means hating other        countries does not damn patriotism; it damns them.              When confronted with abuses of a value, the correct solution is therefore       distinguishing the valid from the invalid. Stupid teenagers and unethical       plastic surgeons don’t own beauty; it has existed for many centuries before       them and will continue        existing long after they are gone. People who use money for wrong things do       not own money; there are all sorts of prosperous people, and many of them are       good people. People who blindly plunder nature do not own science and       technology; the best        technologies are congruent with nature and realize both economic benefit and       environmental sanity. And people who support such things as white supremacism       make total asses of their ethnic groups and lead to the ethnic group being       hated.              So we have seen people look at the wrong done in families and becoming       anti-family. That is wrong. The problem is not the value but the misuses of       the value. People doing wrong things in families discredits family as such,       which is a completely        destructive direction. Family should not be equated with its abuses. Family       can, and should, be done better.              There are any number of applications to this. And when we see a value being       tarnished by its abuses, the correct solution, once again, is to separate the       valid from the invalid. Then these kinds of problems actually have a chance to       be solved in a wise        and principled way.              This, then, becomes the solution to the situation.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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