From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 11:30:33 PM UTC+10, Mortimer Houghton wrote:   
   >    
   > I think you could have left it at women want to be respected as competent    
   > adults who are capable of making their own reasoned choices, the same as   
   men.    
      
   Yes. It makes sense to be neither for nor against men or women. Anything    
   human is capable of choice; anything capable of choice can be good or bad.   
      
   > The problem with the kind of discourse your article represents is that it is    
   > rather patronizing for men to tell women how they ought to think and behave.    
      
   So is it patronizing for women to say what they like and what they don't like   
   in men?   
      
   > Also, it fails to recognize that the push for a life outside of domestic    
   > duties and raising children has context. This is not happening in a vacuum,    
   > but in a society that pushes against women choosing something else, and    
   > loves to blame and vilify them if they try to discover a balance between the    
   > two while actively undermining their ability to do so.    
      
   In my experience, different women wanted different things. Some wanted family,   
   some wanted a career. I think that women should have the right to do either or   
   both.   
      
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