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   Arindam Banerjee to bozo de niro   
   Getting green energy from Earth's gravit   
   26 Sep 23 18:32:04   
   
   From: banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, 26 September 2023 at 22:06:51 UTC+10, bozo de niro wrote:   
   > Dear Arindam Banerjee: I respectfully have one question for you regarding   
   your compulsive off-topic rant here on physics ~ not that I'm not somewhat   
   interested in your personal wheelhouse of competence and achievement in   
   physics, but realistically it    
   is somewhat if not conspicuously far afield here and thus glaringly must be   
   serving you some psychological benefit and relief, and I can't help but wonder   
   if you've ever thought about that issue and would you care to expand and   
   explore it here if it's    
   not too painful?   
      
   You are right, it does give my relief if not any benefit (as yet) to post my   
   physics ideas here.   
   This is an open forum, very rare now with universal headings open to all   
   bypassed with other online media. Which I also use, despite apparent lack of   
   views.   
   Usenet thus is like a public house, great thing here is that the topics are   
   focussed on a global basis, and uniquely. There is thus no excuse for not   
   knowing the latest rant or idea, for anyone with integrity.   
   Too bad my physics posts appear as rants to you. I merely repost some links,   
   at times, to defend and cheer myself up and just maybe influence some dynamic   
   and intelligent non-career persons like say a potential Steve Jobs. I know,   
   these people are very    
   rare, but what chance other than Usenet online posts do I have? The buy one   
   get one, two for the price of one, the bigJew-gujJew Einstein-Gandhi bunny-ah   
   combo pack do their best to suppress me, with stunning success.   
   No one can say I have NOT tried to disseminate my new ideas, which I believe   
   are of the greatest benefit to posterity. It is sad that the establishments   
   have no use for posterity. Posterity be damned for them. They care for their   
   egos, careers and    
   snobberies, prejudices and petty personal interests. Robots, after all, they   
   are.   
   As for the pains involved, they have been very great, especially for my family   
   for they did not know why I was being ignored and ridiculed. I suffered   
   because they suffered. For many years. Now, as I have lost all regard for all   
   the dominant    
   establishments involving professors, politicians, physicists, pimps,   
   presstitutes and prostitutes, there is no suffering - one does not suffer from   
   what one despises. Just see them as hindrances and potential evils, like   
   viruses.   
      
   Hope I made it clear enough, by the above expansion.   
      
      
      
   ~ but getting back to your Newtonian physics and any of its possible   
   justification here, does ANY of its exploration here (i.e. PHYSICS) have any   
   potential or effect on making the public utility meter at my personal domicile   
   ACTUALLY RUN BACKWARDS? Which    
   would mean DOES ANY OF IT ACTUALLY TRANSLATE to me delivering energy back to   
   my power company so that I can get paid for the power I'm delivering to   
   PACIFIC GAS & ELECTRIC rather than the other way around? IF SO THEN PLEASE   
   PLEASE CONTINUE INDEED and    
   tell me why I am not seeing the benefit and/or making the connection   
   pedagogically? THANK YOU.   
      
   In my case, as I have solar on top of the house, I do get rebate at 66c per   
   unit for the surplus power fed back to the grid.   
      
   So it is already happening for me, and as far as I can tell, for many   
   americans as well.   
      
   Now the point is, can you generate more power locally with the wheel of   
   Bhaskaracharya, and add that to the solar power to make more money.   
   Or if you make enough power with solar/wind/wheel can you dispense with power   
   bills?   
   Or if your car is electric, fuel bills?   
   Evidently solar is not enough. You need constant power 7*24 at some steady   
   pace, say 5KW for unending joy thanks to the wheel of Bhaskara, and the   
   gravity of Mother Earth.   
      
   Let us see if that can happen.   
      
      
   The power is 5KW, or 5000 W. In the video of the wheel, the angular velocity   
   is about 2 radians/sec   
   Now power = moment of inertia times angular velocity   
   or 5000 = I * 2   
   or I = 2500 MKS units.   
   Let us say that the moment of inertia of the motor armature (come to that   
   later) is 500.   
   So for the rest (wheel, masses, spokes, shaft) it is 2000.   
   Let there be 10 wheels welded to a central shaft.   
   So per wheel, the Inertia is 200.   
   I is very roughly mass times the square of the radius, with some constant   
   dependent upon the geometry.   
   Let us say the diameter of the bicyle wheel is 0.6m   
   Then the mass of the whole thing is some constant times 20/.6^2 = 20/.36 * K =   
   55*K   
   Put K = 1, (should be different) then mass of one wheel with bottles   
   containing oil and lead pellets/steel stuff = 55Kg.   
   Say the rim and spokes make up 5KG, so the ten bottles will weigh 50Kg. One   
   bottle 5 Kg, easy with an al pipe, lead and oil.   
      
   Overall it should weigh, with motor, some 55*10 + weight of motor = 600Kg.   
      
   Of course, by now the design is clear. You mount ten wheels on a shaft, weld   
   them to the shaft, mount on two good bearings.   
   Then connect to a generator.   
   Now give it a whirl manually, maybe some people required for that!   
   And get 5 KW max power till the end of time   
      
   PROVIDED   
      
   - you keep up the angular velocity going steady, for external forces like dust   
   on bearings, gusts of wind will slow it all down over time   
   - bearings do not wear out   
   - keep free from dust.   
      
   Ideal in a basement, the only problem is noise pollution.   
   And remote areas.   
   So in future versions, make double walled bottles, or some sound insulation.   
   Also, automatic change from generator to motor, to keep up the angular   
   velocity.   
      
   Note: The above calculations are very rough, back on envelope type. But if   
   indeed the wheel works as shown in several youtube videos, this is one way of   
   commercialisng. Overall mass is some 600Kg to get 5KW. It is DIY stuff for   
   anyone with some skills,    
   but my guess is (taking metal price as $3.5 per Kg) could be sold for $2000 to   
   $3000 if mass produced.   
      
   Or $500 per KW, $500,000 per Mw, of totally green power, that could be either   
   localised or grouped wherever.   
      
   Cheers,   
   Arindam Banerjee   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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