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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Choice, nature and personality disorders    |
|    30 Sep 23 18:20:18    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              I have encountered opinions such as that free will is a canard and that all we       are is our nature. The biggest problem with that kind of thinking is that it       stands to lead to a holocaust. People will decide that some people’s       nature is bad and that        they can only be bad whatever they do. This logically would lead to these       people being targeted for extermination. As we are seeing right now with       sociopaths and narcissists.              Another problem with that opinion is that it is blatantly false. I am someone       who went from being someone whom most people saw as a bad person to someone       who most people see as a good one. I did it the way anyone does anything: by       putting my mind to it.        I know for a fact that it is possible to rise above nature and practice wilful       conduct. I also know for a fact that people can both get better and get worse       as function of their decisions and their beliefs.              When I was visiting my now-ex wife while she was living with her previous       boyfriend, he said things to aggravate her and told her, “Here is the real       Mel.” He decided that he knew the real Mel and that she was bad and could       only be bad. I did not        share that opinion.              Who is the real Mel? Real Mel is whoever Mel wants to be. Real Mel is        whatever qualities real Mel wants to have that she is willing to work in       developing. This reflects the most profound reality of human existence –       that of choice and will.               A choice and will that trumps nature and makes goodness accessible to       everyone, including even the sociopaths and the narcissists.              The thought on this matter needs to be reworked. People’s nature is       influential in their lives; but more influential is choice and will. These       being owned up to, it becomes possible for man to regain his humanity. And       then anyone can be a good person,        whatever his nature or psychology happens to be.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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