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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Being conflicted vs. being ignorant    |
|    02 Oct 23 23:01:48    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              I am not going to lie. I am conflicted. The conflict is between my commitment       to Jesus and my experience of – and respect for – other paths such as       Buddhism, Hinduism, paganism, metaphysics and psychology. I want to avail       myself of all the wisdom        that’s out there and figure out who is right and about what.              Now there are many people who get portrayed as being insane. In fact, it can       be easily shown that the bulk of humanity is insane. Different people believe       different and conflicting things; which means that even if one group is right,       everyone else is        insane. And that means: the majority of the population.              To make an original contribution, someone needs to think in original ways. And       people who think in original ways will always see someone saying that they are       insane. However as we see this extends to the bulk of the population and is       not limited to the        original thinkers.              When the bulk of the world is wrong, the only people who have a chance to be       right are people who think in ways external to that of their environment. Once       again, these people will always be seen by somebody as insane. In some cases       this will be a        truthful accusation, in other cases it won’t be. But what is also true is       that these people don’t own insanity, and that once again it is easily shown       that the bulk of the world is insane.              However, insane or not, some of these people also tend to have come into       possession of useful knowledge and useful wisdom. I have found wisdom in all       sorts of places where I didn’t expect it. I found it in American inner city       and rural Australia. I        found it in businessmen and military people. I even found it in children. When       I was talking about my daughter about yuckie people, she said that there are       no yuckie people. You wouldn’t expect such wisdom in a six-year-old child,       but I have found it        there.              The error of many religious people is thinking that the only wisdom is in the       Bible. In fact there is wisdom in many places, and in failing to avail       themselves of that wisdom they are impoverishing their understanding of the       world. The error of        scientific materialists is failing to avail themselves of the wisdom that is       in the world’s religions and spiritual paths. That likewise impoverishes       their understanding of the world. Both of the above are right about some       things; but in discounting        the rest of the world’s knowledge they make unavailable to themselves the       bulk of the world’s wisdom. And that hurts mostly themselves.              In my case, figuring out such things has been a lifelong quest. It has lead me       to many unexpected places. And while I have a serious relationship with Jesus       Christ, I also know that there have been wise people in history besides Jesus       Christ, and that        things stand to be learned from these people.              I would encourage people to pursue knowledge that isn’t a part of their       upbringing. There are two possible outcomes from this. One may decide that the       has been misinformed and hopefully lead the people of his upbringing toward       better understanding. Or        one may decide that he has been informed correctly and use the wisdom he’s       gathered in other paths to extend the mindset of his upbringing. In either       case the results are beneficial ones, and this is a process that can be useful       for many people.              Of course one side effect from that is the conflict and confusion I’ve been       speaking about. That can be unpleasant; however it’s better to be conflicted       than ignorant. We live in a world where everyone is influencing everyone else,       which means that        many people would be conflicted. However the more they persist in working       through such things, the greater becomes their wisdom and understanding. And       that is as good for them as it is good for the world.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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