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   Ilya Shambat to All   
   Misogyny and misandry   
   16 Oct 23 18:11:48   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   Misogynists and misandrists have the same problem. They expect ridiculous   
   things of the other gender while expecting of themselves absolutely nothing.   
   Because their expectations are as high as they are, nobody is able to meet   
   them. Whenever a person    
   fails to meet them, that gets used to claim that one has been right from the   
   start that the other gender is bad.   
      
   I get angry when I see a good man in a bad relationship situation. There are   
   so many good women out there with horrible partners, whenever a good man comes   
   along he gets appropriated by some absolute horror of a woman who treats him   
   like dirt. The    
   experiences of such men then get used by the Father’s Lobby types to claim   
   that misogynists have been right about women all along. In the same way, of   
   course, as women experiencing domestic violence gets used by misandrists to   
   claim that men are all    
   bastards.   
      
   Sometimes such people want to be proven wrong. But that in itself stands to be   
   a game. The standard is set exclusively high, and nobody can meet it. Any   
   failure to meet it feeds greater misogyny or misandry. And it is the better   
   people – both men and    
   women – who get the worst of it.   
      
   If a person acts this way, it is viable to use a mirror. It is to ask, Do you   
   expect of yourself what you expect of the other gender? That way the game is   
   stopped in its tracks. It defeats both misogyny and misandry. And it helps the   
   rest of us, who are    
   not misogynists or misandrists, have good relationships.    
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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