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   Message 168,766 of 170,335   
   Ilya Shambat to All   
   Society and corruption   
   28 Oct 23 17:00:01   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   There have been some conservatives who have been claiming that the people on   
   the Left are destroying society. I have things to say on the subject.   
      
   It is inevitable that people will form societies. What is not inevitable is   
   that these societies be tyrannical and corrupt. And the societies that these   
   people have formed have been both.   
      
   They have high levels of incest. They have high levels of domestic violence.   
   They have an anti-intellectual attitude and extreme conformity pressures. For   
   as long as these practices go on in the name of society, that discredits   
   society. And this leads    
   the sincere people to become antisocial.   
      
   When someone claims to speak for society, he must be challenged. That is   
   because what we have here is an authority that is unelected, unofficial,   
   unaccountable, unchecked and unbalanced – that as such has nothing to keep   
   it from becoming tyrannical and    
   corrupt. If you want your society to wield authority, make it official. Pass   
   it into law. Subject it to accountability, check and balance. Otherwise what   
   we have here is a sneaky totalitarianism that controls people’s lives   
   without there being any    
   check and balance upon it.   
      
   So no, the people on the Left are not evil. Many of them are more sincere than   
   the average person. They make the mistake of confusing the abuses of the value   
   for the value itself. They see abuses done in the name of society and mistake   
   it for society    
   itself. This is wrong. Society can, and should, be done better.   
      
   Should we do away with society? By no means. But we do need to prevent it from   
   becoming tyrannical and corrupt. Practices such as incest, domestic violence   
   and extreme conformity pressures should be confronted. Wrong things done in   
   the name of society    
   must be abolished. And then society itself will survive without being   
   associated with things that are wrong.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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