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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    "Christian domestic discipline" and cont    |
|    07 Nov 23 19:25:43    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              There is an arrangement called Christian Domestic Discipline, in which men are       told that the best way to control their wives is through calculated violence.              That’s the problem right there. They want to control their wives instead of       loving them.              Some mix this with patriotism and Christianity. In both cases a wrong is done.       Tyrannical family arrangements fail to prepare people for a democracy. To       function in a democracy you need to know compromise and negotiation. You do       not learn that in        households where one person’s word is the law. Authoritarian family leads to       authoritarian politics; and a true patriot in a democracy would prepare their       young for democracy instead of raising them in – and preparing them for –       authoritarianism.              So we have people claiming that a woman won’t respect you unless you control       her. That is dead wrong. I never tried to control my ex-wife, whereas her men       before her did everything they could to control her. She has respect for me       and none for these        men.              Being with someone you feel the need to control is a stupid way to live. You       live without trust, intimacy or understanding. Basically, this leads to lives       getting squandered; and it is in every way viable for people in such settings       to look for a better        way.              It so happens that there is a better way. That way is having genuinely loving       relationships. Control is not wanted because there is love and trust. Instead       of working against the woman, one works with her. She is not an animal, an       alien or a fiend; she        is one’s partner. And one realizes much greater benefit by taking that path       than by taking the path of control.              As for the Christian Domestic Discipline: not only is what they recommend       illegal, it is also morally wrong. Such situations are rarely entered freely       and of accord. In most cases, this is the case of the family or the community       bullying a young woman        into a situation in which she would have to remain subservient for a lifetime.       It is not discipline. It is oppression.              If you are with someone you feel the need to control, you are with the wrong       person. The right person will be trustworthy and you won’t feel the need to       control her. If you are in a situation of this kind, then by all means leave       the woman and save the        both of you. Find yourself a woman whom you can trust and actually live.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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