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   Ilya Shambat to All   
   Is love powerful?   
   20 Nov 23 21:01:14   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   There was a time when I had ill will toward many people. I do not any more.   
   What I’ve done is go to bother of understanding where they were coming from.   
   This gave me compassion for these people. That is even the case with people   
   who were being ugly to    
   me.   
      
   There is a claim that love is stronger than hatred – indeed that it Is the   
   most powerful force in the universe. I cannot be expected to love everyone the   
   way I love my ex-wife or my daughter; but I can be expected to extend to other   
   people compassion    
   and understanding. That is the case even with people who are guilty of doing   
   wrong things.   
      
   Is love stronger than hatred? I do not see how one emotional state can be   
   stronger than another, and I have enough information to know that there are   
   things stronger than either love or hatred – things such as, for example,   
   nuclear bombs. Both love and    
   hatred can be done in ways that are powerful and ways that are not powerful.   
   There are many situations in which love loses out, either to hatred or to any   
   number of other things – things such as slander and misrepresentation. I had   
   such a situation in    
   my life. I never stopped loving the woman; however she ended up dying before   
   having realized the deception that she was laboring under. Prior to her death,   
   she got married to a man who was bad to her. And what I always wanted to tell   
   her was that with me    
   she would be treated much better and, even though I may not be perfect I am   
   better than what she was going to be faced with.   
      
   Is love the most powerful force in the universe? No. There are many love   
   situations that get destroyed through slander or misunderstanding. There are   
   many situations in which love is used as an appetizer to lure people into bad   
   situations, the end result    
   of which is having a lifelong companion whom one does not love.. Not being   
   omnipotent however does not make love not precious. It is absolutely precious.   
   And it then becomes the task of whatever power one may possess to safeguard   
   the love.   
      
   Where people who believe such things are right about is that you become more   
   effective in dealing with a person when you go to the bother of extending to   
   them understanding and compassion. The more you understand the person, the   
   better you can deal with    
   them. In this sense love really is powerful. The engine behind that though is   
   not love, or at least not romantic love. It is understanding and compassion.   
      
   When someone says such things as “love is the answer,” the correct   
   response is, “What do you mean by love?” Once again, I cannot be expected   
   to love everyone in the way in which I love people whom I love. There is   
   however a lot to be said for    
   understanding and being compassionate to other people. Romantic love is for   
   inside the home. Compassion and understanding are for everywhere else.   
      
   W. H. Auden wrote, “The error born in every bone of every woman and every   
   man… not universal love, but to be loved alone.” That’s not an error. If   
   you are married to someone you should expect that they love you alone. It   
   doesn’t mean that they    
   should be ugly to everyone else.   
      
   Have romantic life for inside the home and universal love for outside the   
   home. And abide by a much fuller understanding of love.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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