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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    The legacy for baby boomers    |
|    27 Nov 23 21:15:15    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              When I was attending a private Christian school in Virginia, I was for a while       a star student. Then I started going around telling people that they didn’t       exist. I was acting like a 1960s teenager, and that was disturbing to some in       the administration.        They thought that the baby boomers were a bad crop and that only they behaved       in that way. They found out to the contrary.              These people wanted to recreate 1950s. When you recreate the conditions       preceding a phenomenon, you are recreating conditions that lead to the       phenomenon. This, then, leads to the re-emergence of the phenomenon. The       people who want to recreate the        conditions preceding the union movement and socialism are recreating       conditions that lead to the beginning of the union movement and socialism.       Which means that they are going to get slammed with something like the union       movement and socialism – yet        again.              Now there are many people who see baby boomers as a bad crop; but I don’t       see them that way. They did a lot that was right. That was both the case in       them fighting for women’s rights and civil rights in 1960s as in them       creating the computer industry        and the Wall Street boom in 1980s and 1990s. There are many gen-X women who       despise their mothers, but without them they would not be able to have their       careers or their right to be anything except a stay-at-home wives. They       weren’t a bad crop; they        were people who had different ideas from ones of their parents. And many of       these ideas were good ones.              So here am I, looking up to the baby boomers. Does that make me a spoiled       child or a narcissist? I care about all sorts of people besides myself, and I       also care about nature. The women in my life all experienced me as       affectionate, loving and warm, and        my daughter told me that I’m the best dad ever. I fought the truly obnoxious       beliefs that some among baby boomers have, such as that everything that       happens to people is a reflection of what’s in their consciousness or that       fear is at the root of        everything wrong with the world or that positive thinking, high self-esteem       and believing in oneself is the solution to everything. I have no respect for       obviously wrong beliefs. I do however have respect for any number of baby       boomers.              When my former boss was telling me that he was getting long in the tooth, I       told him that everyone gets old except the people who die young. Many of these       people bloomed in their youth, and as they lost their youth they lost their       identity. They have        nostalgia for the great times they had when they were young. My response to       that is that the human process is never finished. There are many things that       they can do as older people to have meaningful life and achieve a legacy in       the world.              Now to be fair any number of Gen-Xers come from the right place as well. There       are many baby boomers who accuse them of being negative. That is because the       problems of the world aren’t being addressed, and there is nothing to       justify a positive outlook.        As the problems of the world do get address, I can guarantee that these       people will become more positive. The behaviour toward them is bullying and       unethical, and that gives credit to those who want to see baby boomers as       narcissists. The concerns of        gen-Xers are legitimate. They deserve to be addressed.              The people who see 1960s as an anomaly have not studied history. Similar       themes took place in the Romantic period that followed Enlightenment and in       the early 20th century period that followed Victorianism. Some among       conservatives have made a whole        ideology about how baby boomers were evil. They are wrong. They are not evil;       they had another idea as to how they can live. Their behaviour was not a       function of their character. It was a function of their beliefs.              Beliefs change all the time; and pursuing them people’s behaviour. The       people who started out as compassionate and idealistic pursuant 1960s       Romanticism became bullying, careless and short-sighted as they embraced the       dogmas of positive thinking,        winners-and-losers and self-esteem. The same people were responsible for both       phenomena. Their character did not change. Their beliefs did, and pursuant       that their conduct.              As for myself, I look up less to 1960s than to 1920s. There was a strong       anti-business sentiment in 1960s, and I think that that is wrong. A lot is       owed to business, and business should be treated with respect. At the same       time respect also should be        afforded to culture, which many in business world do not do. Both business and       culture constitute accomplishment. Both are valid forms of human endeavour.       And in 1920s the two co-existed to create the period in which America became       the unquestioned        leader of the world.              So it important that things be put into perspective. 1960s was not the only       time in history in which these themes were tried, nor will they be the last.       The people who fail to learn from history repeat it. If you recreate 1950s, it       is only a matter of        time before you get something like 1960s. And if you recreate the conditions       preceding union movement and socialism, it is only a matter of time before you       get slammed with something like union movement and socialism yet again.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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