From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   Jim Morrison wanted to kill his father and have sex with his mother, and   
   Eminem wanted to kill his mother. The first thought that in his Oedipal   
   ranting he had discovered the secret of human condition. This claim is refuted   
   by the behavior of Eminem.   
      
   The real reason for the behavior of both is the way in which they – and   
   their generations – were raised. Baby boomers were raised in households in   
   which the mother was the nurturer and the man was the disciplinarian. Mothers   
   were nice; fathers were    
   mean. So the children liked their mothers and hated their fathers. Children   
   will always like people who are nice to them better than they will like people   
   who are mean to them, and there is nothing Oedipal about it.   
      
   The parents of Emimen's generation did things differently. Their mothers left   
   men who were mean to them; and many became mean – or at least disciplinarian   
   - themselves. So predictably the children hated their mothers.   
      
   In the first case the children hated the male parent for being mean; in the   
   second case the children hated the female parent for being mean.   
      
   That is a much truer human reality than what we see in Jim Morrison's claims.   
      
   In my generation, women have been taught to be mean. It is known as Third Wave   
   feminism. That is likely to create more Eminems down the road.   
      
   But then there have been many men in my generation who, in reaction against   
   Third Wave feminism, adopted misogynistic beliefs. They listen to Eminem or   
   follow Osama Bin Laden. This is likely to create more Jim Morrisons.   
      
   And then there is the possibility for children who are worse than either of   
   the above: Children both of whose parents are mean to them and who hate both   
   their fathers and their mothers.   
      
   What would a generation like that look like? I cannot predict. Maybe some of   
   them will be motivated to figure out better ways to do things, and maybe some   
   of them will achieve these ways. But then there is a strong possibility that   
   such people will just    
   be hateful, both to other people in their gender and to the other gender.   
   Maybe they will want to kill both their fathers and their mothers; and maybe   
   many of their fathers and their mothers would deserve such an attitude.   
      
   In my case at least none of these things are likely to happen. I have been   
   very good to my daughter, and so has her mother. But many other children are   
   not so lucky; and I shudder to think what would happen in a situation in which   
   a Third Wave feminist    
   gets together with someone like Eminem.   
      
   Both Jim Morrison and Eminem expressed a truth that was experienced by their   
   generation. But in no way did either one express a universal human reality.   
   There is one human reality underlying both of these men: That children will   
   like parents who treat    
   them well and dislike parents who treats them badly. That is the case   
   regardless of the parent's gender. And this truth will continue being   
   expressed through all of history.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)