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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    The foolishness of political correctness    |
|    01 Dec 23 19:20:07    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              The proponents of political correctness like to portray anyone who takes       objection to political correctness as a bigot or a neanderthal. Any expression       containing even a hint of anger brings on that response. I am responding now       to political correctness        in a manner that is fully reasoned and that cannot be portrayed credibly as       any such thing.              Political correctness not only fails to achieve its stated goals of tolerance       and respect; it prevents them from being made possible at all. In order to       actually respect or tolerate the next person I need to understand their       perspective. For me to do so        the next person will have to be able to tell me their honest opinions however       offensive these may be. And if the next person cannot tell me their honest       opinions because someone may find them offensive, then I will never understand       the next person's        perspective, and I would not know whether or not to extend to that person       actual tolerance or actual respect.              What is achieved this way is nothing close to tolerance or respect. What is       achieved this way is suffocating insincerity. And insincerity is a horrible       thing to inflict upon a population. It makes Americans look to everyone else       like scammers. Even I,        who have fought this state of affairs ever since I knew what it was, could not       escape this stereotype when I went to Australia.              Now there have been many arguments by conservatives that 1960s and 1970s       liberalism degraded national character. Political correctness does that much       more. People having sex and doing drugs does not necessarily make people worse       human beings. Being        taught to be insincere, however, very much does make people worse human       beings. And that degrades national character for real.              Before political correctness in America, there were similar attitudes in       Japan. According to their beliefs you get what you send out; so you cannot say       or even think anything negative. But there are many situations in which you do       have to say things that        are negative. When a nuclear reactor explodes you have to tell people what       actually has taken place. Doing anything else is not enlightenment, it is       lying.              Similar themes have been tried in a fair country formerly known as Yugoslavia.       Yugoslavia was widely regarded as a civilized country, indeed the best country       in the Communist bloc. The government preached something similar to political       correctness, and        it made sure that people conformed to it. Because people were not allowed to       express their feelings, they could not move beyond their suppressed ethnic       hatreds, which is what they had been feeling all along. The fair country       called Yugoslavia was        replaced with mass graves and rapes of every female aged 4 to 70. This was not       accidental; it was a logical outcome of the politically correct policies that       the Tito government had put into place.              I am from Russia, and Russians are generally regarded as the rudest people in       the world. I have encountered in any number of places – especially the       American South – the attitude that politeness is the same thing as respect;       but a credible case can        be made that rudeness is actually more respectable than politeness. When you       are rude I know where you are standing, whereas when you are polite I am left       guessing. If you think that Russians, or Jews, or myself personally, are evil,       then I would rather        hear that than to see you pretending to be nice to me while waiting to stab me       in the back. That way I know what I am dealing with, and I can find workable       ways to deal with it.              Now I do not necessarily advocate unchecked rudeness, as that can be       off-putting to people and often deter useful input. But that outcome is far       more reliably accomplished by the attitude that no opinion that anyone can       consider offensive should be        expressed. The outcome of the preceding, once again, is nothing close to       tolerance or respect. The outcome of the preceding is suffocating insincerity.       And that, once again, is very bad for the country. It makes everyone       dishonest, and as such it        degrades national character.              Besides, once again, making all but impossible its stated goals of achieving       tolerance and respect.              Of course the participants in political correctness do not begin to follow       their own stated claims of respect or tolerance. I have been viciously       misrepresented by these people as everything that I am not. A sociopath, a       racist, a misogynist, you name it.        I have even been slandered ridiculously as a pedophile. Yet very few of these       people have done anything to help women at the receiving end of real abuses       such as severe brutality, death threats or corrupt courts taking away their       children. Very few of        these people have maintained close, lasting, serious friendships with people       who were black, or people who were poor, or people who are socially       ostracized. Very few of these people have done anything to confront real       misogyny such as that of Eminem or        Michael Murphy. I have done all of the above.              The same people who call themselves feminists have been abetting the most       viciously misogynistic ideology on the planet – Jihadist Islam. The same       people who call themselves feminists have been excusing inner city thugs in       their crimes against women.        Of course they do not see the outcome of their policies; however the people       who fund them and vote for them do.              At this point the participants in this abominable movement will want to       portray me as a dangerous person. I certainly hope to be dangerous to them; I       hope that more people be dangerous to them, both on the Left and the Right.       These people have inflicted        a very real form of fascism upon countries that are intended to be free; and       if America's founders were alive today they would see them for how gravely       they have violated the constitutional intent.              As well as, once again, degrading the national character.              As well as, once again, making all but impossible their own stated goals of       tolerance and respect.              I have close friendships with a number of classical liberals, including some       with major personal achievements, and none of them have any use for political       correctness. One statement I've heard from a young Jewish lady is that       political correctness is an        embarrassment to liberalism; and that it is indeed. Liberalism was never meant       to be the same thing as fascism, and liberalism was never meant to be the same       thing as forced insincerity.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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