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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Art and realism    |
|    30 Nov 23 20:24:51    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              One claim constantly made about artistically inclined people is that they lack       realism. My response to that is that reality of human world is what people       make of it; and such things are only unrealistic if people choose to make them       so.              If something is not in demand, then those who are willing to supply it either       go starving or have to do something else. The problem is not with those who       are willing to form the supply, but with those who undermine the demand. I se       no reason at all why        America, with 300 million people and per capita GDP of $50,000 a year, should       have less good art than Renaissance Italy, with 3 million people and per       capita GDP of $1,500 a year. The problem is not with realism or lack of       realism. The problem is one of        values. Clearly there have been times in history in which it was completely       realistic to produce and distribute art. And the times and places where that       was the case are the times and places to which we continue to look back now.              So now we’ve come to a completely ridiculous point: Seeing artistic interest       as psychopathology. You might as well say that it’s pathological to want to       make money or to worship God. Treating such things as a psychopathology takes       more resources than        it would take to allow such people to be artists, and it does not produce any       kind of benefit.              There have been times in American history when that was not the attitude. In       1920s there was a magnificent artistic blossoming even at the same time as       there was a great economic boom. Economic prosperity and artistic blossoming       coexisted. They worked        together with one another. And it was in this time – one that combined       economic prosperity with artistic excellence – that America became the       greatest country in the world.              This means the following. Not only is it completely realistic to produce –       and consume – art, but doing so is fully consistent with America’s values       and America’s greatness. It is not for “snobs” or “liberal elites”       or “pretentious        Europeans.” It is something that has been done by patriotic Americans at the       time that America rose to its greatest glory. It is fully realistic, as well       as completely American, to produce and to consume art. The problem is lack of       demand. The solution        is increasing the demand while also producing supply of good art that people       want to buy.              Ilya Shambat        https://sites.google.com/site/ilyashambatthought              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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