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   Ilya Shambat to All   
   Predatory behavior in men and women   
   04 Dec 23 19:26:55   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   There are any number of men who think that women are irrational because they   
   have feelings, and there are any number of women who think that men are   
   neanderthals or abusers because they have anger. Often both find ways to   
   “prove” their respective    
   theories through deliberate goading people into, respectively, emotional or   
   angry responses.   
      
   A man would deliberately aggravate a woman – typically his partner - by one   
   or another poisonous statement. This would bring on an emotional response. The   
   man would then say that he has been right all along and that the woman is –   
   neurotic,    
   irrational, crazy, whatever.   
      
   Women do the same thing with male anger. A woman would deliberately aggravate   
   a man – in my experience, typically not her partner but someone whom she   
   would find convenient to bully or to scapegoat. This would bring on an angry   
   response. The woman    
   would then say that she has been right all along and that the man is an abuser   
   or a neanderthal.   
      
   If the people at the receiving end of either behavior start using their minds   
   and responding rationally, suddenly the person changes the tune. Now the   
   person is – cold, manipulative, sociopathic, dangerous, whatever. If you   
   respond emotionally you are    
   crazy. If you respond angrily you are an abuser. And if you respond rationally   
   you are a psychopath.   
      
   With some people you just can't win.   
      
   I have of course seen plenty example of both types of predatory behavior. I   
   want people who are vulnerable to this kind of abuse – both men and women   
   – to see through it and see it for what it is. The men who do the first have   
   no business claiming    
   any kind of rationality, and the women who do the second have no business   
   claiming any kind of enlightenment. In both situations we see behavior that is   
   dishonest, abusive and morally wrong. And both reason and spirituality get   
   insulted and discredited    
   when they are used as a cover for such behavior.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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