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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Hippies and Morality    |
|    20 Jan 24 16:42:50    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              I have seen conservative commentators describing hippies as a bunch of retards       who did not understand the need for morality.              What hippies actually believed is that if people love one another they will do       the right thing by one another, and there will be no need for morality.              Is that workable? I have seen it work in some situations. At Burningman, there       are over 20000 people, many of them naked, living in total anarchy, and       everyone is good to everyone else. People I met there said that people       weren’t ready for that much        freedom. I responded that the way to become ready for something is by trying       it out in small doses, and as ability to handle it improves increase the dose.              A Christian priest told me that the substance of the Biblical law is to teach       us to love other people, and that commandments are rules by which this love       can be accomplished. The question here to ask is, What do you mean by love?       There are many different        things that are considered to be love. With universal love we see compassion       and understanding. With personal love we see passion and partiality. It is       valid to extend universal love to everyone; it is valid to extend personal       love to some.              Is morality necessary to that effect? I have definitely seen people do good       things when they didn’t have traditional values, and I have seen people       being hideously abusive in the name of morality. For as long as morality is       practiced in a cruel way,        that will alienate people who are against cruelty from morality. This will       create a paradoxical situation in which the better people do not believe in       morality and the worse people do.              My thought on this is as follows. If you can be trusted to do the right thing       by the next person then you do not need morality; if you cannot then you do.       An anarchist once told me that the options are either to treat people with       respect or to submit to        the law. It appears that there is a place for both love and morality, with       different approaches appropriate to different people and at different times in       their lives.              So no, the hippies weren’t retards. They had some quite profound ideas, and       these are ideas that can be instructive for the rest of us. These ideas had a       transformative effect on the way in which Christianity was practiced,       enriching people’s        experience and understanding of the faith. They provided love in a faith that       was meant to preach it but forgot it. And that is a significant contribution       and one that deserves respect.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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