From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2024-01-23, tooly  wrote:   
      
   > This might be one of the most important speeches of our times.   
   > It hits most points of why socialism does not work, cannot work,   
   > and how today's social movements are leading us essentially to ruin   
   > [as impoverishment].   
      
   In fact, no social systems "work". There are no "socialism" force,   
   "communism" force, or "capitalism" forces in the universe. Those   
   are all *appearances* emergent within the context of observation of   
   multitudes of people behaving as they are. When a preponderance of   
   people are convinced - aka believe - there's an overall, collective   
   behavior, they call it something, because objectification -   
   i.e. considering phenomena name-able objects - is what subjects   
   (psychology sense) do.   
      
   What never has, and absolutely cannot work is personhood, i.e. the   
   belief that one is a limited ball of free-will in opposition to all   
   not-personhood. That's the basis of mental illness, because it's   
   purely a mental - i.e. "mind only" (in Lankavatara Sutra speak)   
   - phenomena.   
      
   It is, in fact, why people (haha) used to speak of people being   
   "mental", "mental cases", etc. That reference/lingo reflected what   
   was once genuine understanding of the situation.   
      
   The mental illness also known as personhood is what generates   
   behavior also known as "selfish", which is *always* at odds with   
   a working society.   
      
   Doesn't matter what "system" you call the overall effect at a   
   meta level, when people are behaving primarily with self-interest,   
   shit *will* happen....   
      
   --   
   oldernow   
   xyz001 at nym.hush.com   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)