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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Divorce and Sociopaths    |
|    06 Feb 24 13:20:13    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              In a debate on the Internet about divorce, someone wrote that only an idiot or       sociopath will be building his happiness on someone else’s misery.              By that standard he is an idiot and a sociopath because he works in a       capitalist economy, where he is competing against someone else and builds his       success on their misery.              What are the correct parameters here? There needs to be a vigorous debate on       this matter in many places. Much here is at stake. I particularly would like       hypocrisy to be addressed. One man goes to jail for “beating up [his]       wife’s fist with [his]        face”; another man breaks his wife’s skull so badly that she needs 40       stitches and walks away with the child. One man goes to jail for a year and       loses everything he has for getting drunk and chatting up a 16-year-old;       another man rapes his daughter        repeatedly since she is 4 and keeps both his freedom and his custody over the       kid. The high school kid who beats up other kids and impregnates his female       classmate is a stud; the high school kid who takes school seriously is a       “know-it-all” and “       thinks he’s better than everyone else.”               Of course wrong things get done all the time. Man-woman relationships are just       one of the many things that can go wrong. So is high school. So is business.       So is society. It is important to anticipat4e what can go wrong in any given       situation and put in        the correct antidotes to the problem.              It is also important to look at degrees of the wrongdoing. I once heard       someone comparing a woman who was mildly promiscuous to Adolf Hitler because       she did not fully follow conservative sexual morality. Meanwhile much greater       violation – incest –        was gone unredressed by him. Abuses done in the name of ethics give ethics a       bad name and leads many sincere people to reject it. They don’t reject it       because they are evil. They reject it because it is hypocritical. A huge       social problem gets created        as people who are sincere reject ethics because they identify ethics with the       bullying and mean-spirited way in which it is practiced. And we find ourselves       in a paradoxical situation in which the most genuine people reject       conventional morality while        the platform of ethics is claimed by heartless jerks.              With divorce, in many cases it is the existing partner that is building his       happiness on his partner’s misery. Sometimes women divorce for wrong       reasons, but that is not the only possible outcome. Once again, it is       important to look at degrees. It is        also important to look at the dynamics. Many relationships can, and should, be       saved. But there are others that are simply ill-advised, and for the person to       find herself in one – especially at a young age - should not be a life-       ruining mistake.              What ethics are applicable to relationship, and what ethics are applicable to       work? And is it right to support cut-throat competitive tactics of business to       heavy-headed strictures exerted over relationships?              What is the correct set of moral values in each instance?              Once again, there needs to be vigorous debate on this manner.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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