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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Vysotsky, Empathy and Self-Esteem    |
|    08 Feb 24 06:47:26    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              In a song called "Ships," the Soviet Union's greatest songwriter Vladimir       Vysotsky stated, "I have no trust in fate, in myself even less faith." This       statement poses a profound challenge to much contemporary thought in       psychology.              According to contemporary psychology, self-faith (or self-esteem) is a       prerequisite for a successful existence. According to this thought, Vysotsky       should have been a complete loser. And yet he was one of the most successful       singers and songwriters in        all of history. How can this be?              Well it turns out that there is a very obvious reason why this can be.       Self-faith and self-esteem are far from the only powers out there. Vystosky       has been described by many people as being "the soul of Russia." What does       this mean?              What this means in real-world terms is that he felt what the people of Russia       were feeling and giving these feelings expression. People love those who       articulate what they themselves feel, especially the feelings that they       themselves either don't know        how to, or are not allowed to, express. People love an empath, especially a       vocal empath. So that even someone like Eminem, who expresses the ugliest of       feelings, gets a huge following by tapping into what people are feeling and       expressing it for them.              With Vysotsky, the feelings that he was expressing ranged across the board of       Russian people. He had songs about people fighting in Second World War; about       prisoners; about drunks; about punks; even about mental patients. And because       of the vast        emotional effort that he had put into feeling and then expressing what others       were feeling, his own feelings were so enmeshed with those of others that,       even when he was only expressing himself - as he did in "Ships" - his feelings       still spoke to those        of his audience.              In the West, the artists are taught to express their own feelings. This       advice, I have found, is counterproductive. It gets the artistic types accused       of self-absorption even as it fails to develop their ability to speak to the       rest of the world. The        vast success of Vysotsky, and the lack of interest that many people in the       West have for the arts, show just how counter-productive this stance has been.              But there is something even more profound in this matter. Faith is by       definition in things that are outside of what it is that believes. When one is       in touch with something that is more profound than one's self - as was       Vysotsky with the feelings of        Russian people - then one does not need to have faith in oneself; indeed one       does not need to have faith period. One is already in touch with a vast and       powerful presence that extends far beyond oneself. And that is a source of far       greater wisdom and far        greater power than is self-belief.              Instead of teaching people to look within, it is far more effective to teach       them to look outside of themselves - at other people, at nature, at other       cultures than their own. The success of Vysotsky far exceeds that of any       self-esteeming yuppie, and        there is a very good reason for that. He was in touch with something much       deeper than his immediate self, and he put words to it. And it is for this       reason that his songs are still being listened to all over Russia over 30       years after his death.              Ilya Shambat        https://sites.google.com/site/ilyashambatthought              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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