From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Thu, 8 Feb 2024, oldernow wrote:   
      
   > On 2024-02-08, Ilya Shambat  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Instead of teaching people to look within, it is far more   
   >> effective to teach them to look outside of themselves -   
   >> at other people, at nature, at other cultures than their   
   >> own. The success of Vysotsky far exceeds that of any   
   >> self-esteeming yuppie, and there is a very good reason for   
   >> that. He was in touch with something much deeper than his   
   >> immediate self, and he put words to it. And it is for this   
   >> reason that his songs are still being listened to all over   
   >> Russia over 30 years after his death.   
   >   
   > The "yuppie" kind of "look within" is purely conceptual, merely   
   > examining beliefs about the individual/person one allegedly is.   
   >   
   > There's a deeper look within than that, which I prefer to call   
   > looking "behind the within", which is essentially awareness looking   
   > at itself. In addition to other things, said looking undermines the   
   > notion of the individual/person, effectively ending what seems/feels   
   > to be a slavery/bondage to said notion.   
      
   Speaking of a deeper look within, did you ever read anything about   
   transpersonal psychology?   
      
   I wonder if therapy is ever so slightly again catching up to it with   
   psychedelic therapy.   
      
   A colleague of mine tried psylocybin and reported feeling closer   
   connected to life and more harmonious, spiritual.   
      
   Going back to the 70s (I think) alcoholics were cured with LSD.   
      
   So are these mushrooms and substances able to open the window without   
   investing time and effort in meditation, silence, fasting etc.?   
      
   And usually short cuts come with a price (just look at steroids for   
   instance, great results, but heavy price) what is the price paid for the   
   fast track to spirituality with psilocybin?   
      
   Best regards,   
   Daniel   
      
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