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|    Ilya Shambat to All    |
|    Jews, Racism and Artificial Blindness    |
|    10 Feb 24 14:37:53    |
      From: ibshambat@gmail.com              Whenever a Jewish person does something wrong, someone jumps in to say that       Jews are bad.              By that standard Americans are bad because Ted Bundy was an American.              Are there Jewish people who are bad? Of course there are. But that does not       mean either that all Jews are bad or that all bad people are Jews. I am not       Harvey Weinstein any more than you are Ted Bundy. I refuse to be blamed for       actions of someone whom I        don’t know and over whom I had no influence.              Now to be fair we see wrong things from the other side as well. There is a       claim for example that saying anything about social groups is racism. That is       completely wrong. Racism is discrimination based on race. I don’t       discriminate based on race; I        discriminate based on culture. People are not in control of their race. They       are in control of cultures that they develop.              Are there differences in individuals within cultures? Of course there are. But       there are also differences between cultures. The culture of San Francisco is       very different from the culture of Saudi Arabia. Failing to see such things is       not enlightenment.        It is blindness.              Indeed in these people we see what very much appears to be an artificial       blindness. And artificial blindness and bigotry feed into each other. A       bigoted person will notice a social phenomenon and propose for it a wrong,       bigoted reason; the academic would        say “no that is a stereotype” or “no that is a generalization,” the       bigoted person will look again and say “no this is definitely going on,”       so he will decide that the academic is full of crap and will go on with his       wrong, bigoted        explanation. The only way to actually defeat bigotry is to find correct       reasons for social phenomena, that beget correct stereotypes but not correct       explanations. Neither bigotry nor artificial blindness are right. What is       right is finding actual reasons        for such things.              Among the Jews themselves, there are different cultures. The Orthodox act like       Muslims; the Conservatives act like mainstream Americans; and the Reform act       like the French. Neither is responsible for the actions of the other. Nor are       they responsible for        the crucifixion of Jesus. That was 2000 years ago, and the people who were a       part of it have long been dead. If the claim is that the sins of fathers are       visited on the sons, that would mean that Americans should suffer because they       had the slave trade        and that the Germans should suffer because there was Nazism. And if these       people are to be exonerated over the sins of their ancestors, then so must be       the Jews.              So we have bigotry on one side and artificial blindness on the other. Both are       wrong. And the correct solution is finding real reasons for social phenomena,       and in so doing conclusively defeating bigotry.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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