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   Ilya Shambat to All   
   What reality is and what it isn't (1/2)   
   16 Feb 24 13:07:54   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   There are many people who believe that the infrastructure in which they exist   
   – and the mindset of which they partake – is reality, and that nothing   
   else is. This is a hideous racket. The Sun is reality. The Universe is   
   reality. Planet Earth is    
   reality, as are the oceans, the air, the rainforests, and the other   
   civilizations. The infrastructure is real enough, but it is in no way the   
   whole of reality. Without the Sun, the Universe, and the Planet Earth, this   
   infrastructure would not exist.   
      
   When I left the corporate world in order to study life, I was accused of   
   leaving the real world. I did no such thing. I left an adaptation to see   
   things more clearly. The adaptation is real; but in no way is it the whole of   
   reality or anything close to    
   being the whole of reality. It is not reality; it is an adaptation.   
      
   We have people considering themselves rational or realistic who see this   
   adaptation as being reality and nothing else to be. This leads to horrible   
   wrongdoing. They poison the air and the oceans. They burn down the rainforest.   
   They destroy other ways of    
   life. Once again, their infrastructure is real enough. But without the Sun,   
   planet Earth and the rest of reality, it would not exist in the first place.   
      
   I have been accused by many people of lacking realism and common sense. I do   
   not regard common sense at all to be sensible. It is common sense that life is   
   not fair; it is common sense that you get what you give. These beliefs are   
   mutually incompatible    
   with one another. If life is not fair then you don't get what you give; and if   
   you get what you give then life is fair. Two mutually contradictory statements   
   are part of the same mentality; which means that that mentality is not nearly   
   as sensible as it    
   believes itself to be.   
      
   As for realism, the answer is no. Realism is not the same thing as partaking   
   of obviously wrong beliefs. The same people who think themselves realistic are   
   doing horrible damage to the rest of the world and leaving the world a worse   
   place than they have    
   found it. I have education in economics from a conservative American   
   university, and I do not oppose either business or technology. I oppose   
   wrongful business practices and bad uses of technology. There are all sorts of   
   better technologies out there that    
   stand to fulfil people's material needs and wants at a far better standard   
   than the technologies that are being used presently. The people who champion   
   them are not lunatics or “narcissists” or "sociopaths" or anything of the   
   sort; they are people    
   who seek true progress – progress from inefficient, polluting,   
   resource-intensive technologies to technologies that are efficient,   
   non-polluting and brain-intensive.   
      
   Does seeing such things make me dangerous? I sure hope that it does. I hope to   
   be dangerous to racketeers, and I hope that more people be dangerous to them   
   as well. When you brainwash people into believing that one adaptation is   
   reality and that nothing    
   else is, you are pulling a con job. I want to deconstruct con jobs; and I hope   
   to not be the only person who does this.   
      
   Once again, the infrastructure is real enough. But it has no business claiming   
   to be the whole of reality. A mindset is not reality either; it is a mindset.   
   Most mindsets have something – or many things – wrong with them. And   
   eventually someone will    
   see through such things, however much you may want to either demonize or   
   pathologize people who are capable of doing the same.   
      
   Do people owe things to this infrastructure? Of course. However they owe more   
   to the Sun and the Planet Earth. Without these things, no infrastructure would   
   exist. The infrastructure, once again, is real enough; but in no way is it the   
   whole of reality.   
      
   So that when someone looks outside of the infrastructure or a mindset for a   
   more honest view, he is not going outside reality. He is going outside of an   
   infrastructure and a mindset. This then completes his understanding of what   
   reality is; and he    
   becomes capable of communicating to others a more informed understanding.   
      
   I do not seek to do away with the infrastructure; it has provided many good   
   things. I do however seek to do away with lies and errors. The infrastructure   
   is a part of reality, but in no way is it the whole of reality. And you will   
   see the same things    
   being said by many others, once again, however much you seek to either   
   demonize or pathologize them.   
      
   Do people's efforts deserve respect? Of course they do. But poisoning the   
   oceans and the air, or burning down Amazonian rainforest, does not. Here we   
   see a very real reality being impacted wrongly. You have not created the   
   oceans and the air; you have    
   not created the Amazonian rainforest; you have no business destroying the   
   same. The people who do such things think that they are being realistic or   
   responsible. They are being neither of the preceding. And it is a sad state of   
   affairs indeed when it    
   takes an “unrealistic” person like me to remind them.   
      
   Some things that have come out of the economic system have been good, and some   
   have been bad. That is the case with all systems, and always has been. I have   
   value for such things as the Internet – a brain-intensive, non-polluting   
   technology. I have    
   absolutely no value for bad technologies such as dirty coal, and much less   
   value for wrong beliefs. The first impacts horribly upon the rest of reality.   
   And the second tells people a pack of lies that likewise influences people to   
   wrongfully impact upon    
   the rest of reality.   
      
   Now there will always be people to see things such as the above. You will not   
   get rid of them whatever you do. It is neither evil nor sick to see where   
   people have gone wrong; indeed doing so corrects many errors and results in a   
   more informed state of    
   affairs. A state of affairs that, being more informed, likewise has the actual   
   chance of being more responsible. As well as more rightful.   
      
      
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