From: nospam@example.net   
      
   >> I think we spoke about this before,   
   >   
   > Probably. These days my memory has all the focus of candle smoke   
   > after having been blown out.   
      
   Do you feel this state of mind has gotten you closer to transcendence?   
      
   >   
   >> but gopher/gemini does seem like a remote place for long   
   >> form diaries. I wonder if the guy you wrote got scared   
   >> since he never thought he'd get a reply. ;)   
   >   
   > Diaries with contact information? Hmmm. Makes me wonder who's   
   > fooling who....   
      
   Good question!   
      
   >> How do you think it could be fixed? Or do you think it   
   >> is possible to fix? Communities are a difficult, organic,   
   >> slippery, emergent thing.  That much I have learned in 10   
   >> years of running a community offline.   
   >   
   > All that comes to mind is repeated public emphasis on the value   
   > of trustworthiness above possibly all else. But, of course, the   
   > actions have to speak at least as loud as the words.   
      
   I think the best recipe for building trust I have found is doing   
   business together and working together towards a common goal.   
      
   >> You sure did start with some heavy stuff! I've read about   
   >> Schopenhauer but never read anything except his short   
   >> essays. I'm still trying to make up my mind if I should   
   >> spend the time reading him or not.   
   >   
   > I feel the gist is incredibly well put in the title "The World As   
   > Will and Representation". But it took plenty of mental wrangling   
   > for that gist to emerge from those words in a way that couldn't   
   > be forgotten. And not small part of said gist was realizing the   
   > world *is* (well, "is"...) a whole lotta mental wrangling that,   
   > once actually seen, can't *but* be seen as so much nothingness -   
   > aka re-presentation - thereby no longer perpetually positing   
   > and imprisoning the idea of one's self (will) in it (mere   
   > re-presentation).   
   >   
   > In that context, a better title might have been "The World as Will   
   > *IN* Representation".   
      
   I think Schopenhauer said that without knowing about Buddhism he   
   reasoned his way to a similar philosophy without the "solution". I'm not   
   so certain that's true and that he was exposed to buddhism before   
   writing his magnum opus. Just look at the title "On the fourfold root of   
   the principle of sufficient reason". Just the title smacks of buddhism   
   to me.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Fourfold_Root_of_the_Princi   
   le_of_Sufficient_Reason .   
      
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