From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2024-04-14, Borax Man wrote:   
      
   > It was ORG mode that made me an Emacs user. I used it   
   > at work (still do) to manage my todo list, tasks, keep   
   > track of what I was working on. To become proficient,   
   > I learned Emacs, and then some Lisp in order to write   
   > some small "programs" to easily record information and   
   > process bits of data at work. ORG mode was something I   
   > could mould to my workflows, and use the way I needed it,   
   > rather than adjust myself to fit a specific template.   
      
   I remember ORG mode being quite attractive back when I   
   felt I needed to go all-in with either emacs or vim. Sure,   
   in retrospect said need might have been a false dichotomy   
   I set up for myself. But I'd gotten it in my head there   
   was no way I was going to remember and become efficient   
   in either set of keystrokes without giving up on one.   
   I vaguely recall absent-mindedly doing keystrokes of   
   the one in the other, having to write keystrokes down,   
   forgetting or confusing them with that of the other editor   
   anyway, etc.   
      
   So I guess it was more my own mental limitations driving   
   that need - although, as I mentioned, vim "won" in a few   
   other ways important to me at the time.   
      
   Another factor is I think I'd already given up on computers   
   being *honestly* useful to me for organization. I mean, I   
   still tinker with possible note-taking and file/directory   
   organizational methodologies. But the hard truth is that   
   none of that works unless one has some base level of inner   
   ability to stick to such patterns, and I don't. Entropy   
   is at *least* as real in file/directory spaces as in the   
   so-called "physical world". I'm forever coming across files   
   that suffered the fate of "out of sight, out of mind",   
   so I've been duplicating organizational debris all over   
   the place for decades. I can forget where I put what   
   in, oh, less than a week, and wind up doing something   
   similar elsewhere, of course with different directory   
   structures, file naming conventions, indenting or other   
   organizationalisms within files, etc.   
      
   In a way, computers are *too* flexible. Whereas a piece   
   of paper that started out with nicely bulleted items   
   winds up with cross-outs, other items shove into spaces   
   between other items, boxes drawn around some things,   
   arrows, constructs like "<--- THIS IS IMPORTANT", the   
   thing about that paper/pen/pencil mess is it's ALL VISIBLE   
   ALL AT ONCE, and I'll be damned if I can get that out of   
   files. Maybe it's possible with some sort of graphical   
   approach, except attempting to draw in computer drawing   
   apps has always seemed too frustrating, and, of course,   
   then I'm dependent on some drawing app that I can imagine   
   no longer being supported, or suddenly having advertising,   
   blah blah sooner than I imagine vim ever will.   
      
   Actually, what keeps working best is to nip events/tasks   
   in the bud by realizing most of them are more driven by   
   momentary obsession than actual need. Then there's less   
   to organize to begin with. And that's somehow a more   
   peaceful situation than looking at some file or piece of   
   paper and going, "Oh, shit... I still have all that to   
   do?" In a way the file or piece of paper winds up mocking   
   my inability to be decisive about what for me is actually   
   personally possible.   
      
   Why regularly incur feelings of inadequacy when staring   
   at incomplete tasks when some (most? all?) of them were   
   silly pipe dreams I couldn't let go of not long after   
   first thinking about them, but should have?   
      
   (He says, as he adds "- give emacs ORG mode another try"   
   to his current morass of ink/lead in a way that starts out   
   horizontal in a tiny open space in the fourth quadrant of   
   the sheet, but then bends to finish vertical for running   
   out of horizontal runway.... :-) )   
      
   > vim though, is to me, the better editor.   
      
      
      
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