From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   What is this "self"-related nonsense this "oldernow"   
   nutcase is constantly yapping about?   
      
   Well, most importantly, it's *not* information whose   
   "knowing" - i.e. remembering/repeating mentally -   
   constitutes some sort of "realization", "enlightenment",   
   "transcendence", etc.   
      
   In fact, "knowing" is the *enemy* of the sudden realization   
   of one's bona fide ineffable nature. "Mind" is *always*   
   identified as chief manifestation of The Problem by every   
   teaching worth bothering with.   
      
   The point of any teaching worth bothering with isn't   
   to become committed to memory (an aspect of "mind"),   
   and then repeated/recited on occasion. Rather, the   
   point of worthwhile teaching is to trick mind into   
   its de-emphasis en route to *absence*, because the   
   only impediment to realizing our ineffable nature   
   is the wall/crust/layer/barrier of conceptuality /   
   aboutness-in-words. It seems the right arrangements of   
   words - which differ from mind to mind - can somehow   
   trigger mind abeyance. And when that happens, it's   
   suddenly obvious there's nothing to "know", that   
   "knowing"/mind is *itself* the problem.   
      
   Not that mind's word/"knowing" idolatry can't return. But   
   once you taste its absence, the way back seems that much   
   easier to find and invoke.   
      
   So.... there's no "truth" to be "known". But do make haste   
   to find the incantation(s) that trigger "your" mind's   
   absence such that it's obvious Truth is your basis/nature,   
   not something to be known by the imposter also known as   
   "mind"....   
      
   --   
   oldernow   
   xyz001 at nym.hush.com   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)