From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, oldernow wrote:   
      
   > One of the downsides of my father visiting is he likes   
   > having a particular news channel playing all day. That's   
   > his choice, so whatever.   
   >   
   > But *my* having to perpetually hear the clueless -   
   > regardless of side/tribe - gets old quickly.   
   >   
   > At the moment, someone is speaking at some "trade union   
   > conference" (where the president will supposedly be   
   > speaking in less than an hour... I'll likely need to   
   > leave the room to avoid having to listen to that babbling   
   > idiot wax incapable-of-doing-the-job...) in favor of trade   
   > unions, what a wonderful thing they are, how we need to   
   > bring the message of the wonderfulness of trade unions to   
   > those without union jobs, etc., etc.   
   >   
   > I guess I understand the deluded motivation. But, my effing   
   > *gosh*, it seems to me the pinnacle of what's usually   
   > referred to as "rocket science" to ignore that trade unions   
   > - like all collective systems - can (and almost certainly   
   > will) devolve to doing more harm than good the far more   
   > fundamental problem of ego manifesting as asshole-ism to   
   > each other isn't *first and foremost* addressed.   
   >   
   > At least *some* conservatives *somewhat* understand this   
   > by putting their trust in the "free" market to deliver   
   > good/jobs in proportional to how big an asshole one wishes   
   > to be.   
   >   
   > But liberals should have their collective picture taken to   
   > serve as the image shown first on the Wikipedia "Bat Shit   
   > Crazy Delusion" page (were there such a page), because   
   > their solutions almost always presume the non-existence   
   > of assholes, and thus couldn't possibly work for long   
   > in practice.   
      
   Occams asshole again? ;)   
      
   Trade unions are an interesting thing for me as a somewhat libertarian   
   creature. In principle, who am I to object if some people want to bargain   
   collectively and associate with one another? All fine by me as long as...   
      
   1. They are not interferring with me.   
   2. They are not interferring with our employer in ways which break their   
   employment contracts.   
   3. They don't get specialized laws, given them special status at the   
   expense of other organizations or individuals.   
      
   As long as 1-3 apply, go for it you trade unionists!   
      
   And for the curious, let's say that in most of europe in general   
   and sweden in particular, 1, 2 and 3 do _not_ apply, and they cause enormous   
   destruction to the economy.   
      
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