From: oldernow@dev.null
On 2024-04-27, D wrote:
> My opinion is that mean while we need a lot of research
> into positive psychology, to prepare people to find meaning
> outside of labour. We need to develop techniques to help
> people find intrinsic meaning. If we don't do that, we
> risk catastrophy when extrinsic meaning is taken away
> from people.
>
> Today we do have plenty of people with intrinsic meaning
> who do not need a job to find meaning. We just need to
> understand how they do that, how to encourage that, and
> perhaps to incorporate that in the raising of our children.
What's 'meaning'? What's 'intrinsic'? What constitutes
"finding meaning"?
I'm not sure we know whether those people you refer to
possess "intrinsic meaning". I think what we observe is
behavior exhibiting an above average sense of peace. But
inner factors allegedly driving such (and I said "allegedly"
because that presumes there is such a thing called "inner
factors" that drive "outer factors"... ;-) ) aren't accessible
to us. We can only theorize - aka *guess*, which, again, tends
to be in accord with preconceived notions about reality.
That seeming above average sense of peace looks more to me
like behavior in the context of *absence* of a need to
possess "meaning" as prerequisite to peace. ;-)
But, see, popular theories of how all this works tend to
favor same old same old notions of distinctions between
"within" and "without", of individuals/persons/selves
with psychologies, and yadda yadda. But, of course,
that's all just words chasing other words' tails.
Is it back the good 'ole "the purpose of life is to realize
and, more importantly, accept there's no purpose to life"
thing?
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