From: dnomhcir@gmx.com   
      
   D writes:   
      
   > Humans require salaries, food, they have limits on their time and the   
   > tasks they are willing to do.   
   >   
   > With AI:s a lot of those limits would go away, and in my opinion,   
   > would lead to a golden age of post scarcity.   
   >   
   > Humans would see what over time, by moving from a 2 day weekend, to a   
   > 3 day weekend, to a 4 day weekend. And at some time the whole concept   
   > of work would shift to include human quality work only such as crafts,   
   > artisanship, service, psychology, sports, competition, music, service   
   > etc.   
   >   
      
   I don't think this is quite how the world works. AI (LLM) uses up much   
   energy already, and there isn't a limitless supply of energy. If robots   
   were building computers for us to play with, who would pay for the   
   energy consumed? where does the energy come from to extract oil from the   
   ground? If you could get solar powered robots to do all the work that is   
   currently done by humans, from serving in bars to building roads, you   
   might be in with a chance of the life of leiser, but what is more likely   
   to happen is the owner of the robots will be extremely rich, and   
   everyone else will be living under a motorway bridge in a tent. Rich   
   people don't give their money away, they use it to have power.   
      
   > Of course we all assume it. There is no way to conclusively prove the   
   > subjective experience of another persons consciousness. We have to, by   
   > nature, rely on proxies such as language, words, behaviours, brain   
   > scans etc. So that is why I am a fan of the turing tests. If it   
   > passes, as far as I can concerned, I will ascribe consciousness to it.   
      
   There have been some attempts at testing for self awareness, for example   
   putting something on a dog's head and then putting the dog in front of   
   the mirror. Does it try to remove the thing from its head when it sees   
   it in the mirror?   
      
   https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/mirror-test   
      
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