From: dnomhcir@gmx.com   
      
   D  writes:   
      
   > We have limitless supply in the form of solar, wind, wave and   
   > hydro-power, and add to that fission, oil, coal etc. It's mostly just   
   > politics that is keeping us from getting all the energy we need.   
      
   No we don't have a limitless supply, as the contstruction and   
   maintenence of these solar panels and wind turbines uses finite   
   resources, and are currently not sufficiently available.   
      
   Oil consumption worldwide reached approximately 97.3 million barrels per   
   day in 2022. Why? Why didn't they just use solar panels? because we are   
   nowhere near that being feasible yet.   
      
   Embeded in the limitless supply idea is some notion of the absolute   
   supply and demand. All life on earth was solar powered (ok apart from   
   some geothermal) until people started burning coal. Why can't we just   
   carry on like that? Because demand has risen so much now that reducing   
   it is too difficult. Ask any green evangelist why he drives a car and he   
   will have his excuses ready.   
      
   Look at the graph of oil consumption. Why is it going up, and not down?   
      
   > Due to the way capitalism and markets work, and the trickle down   
   > effect, the money available will be plenty for all. The proof is that   
   > there have been countless of technology breakthroughs throughout   
   > history and not a single one, not even raw materials, has led to a   
   > monopolist who globally has amassed all the money.   
      
   I've heard of the myth of trickle down economics before and I think it   
   is a myth. Studies on the effectiveness of trickle-down economics have   
   shown mixed results.   
      
   https://www.worldometers.info/oil/   
      
   https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/   
      
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