From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2024-05-03, D  wrote:   
      
   >> I still lean (LOL.. originally typed 'learn'..) more toward   
   >> transcendence implying, in part, rising above The Problem   
   >> (I know, I know... *what* "rises"...?), which Problem   
   >> is seeing (i.e. re-presenting) ineffable reality as   
   >> though a being isolated from it, which seemingly   
   >> requires conceptuality / reality to negotiate /   
   >> manipulate. In that context, words are   
   >> evidence of still being stuck in The   
   >> Dream also known as The Problem.   
   >   
   > Sorry, I do not understand.   
      
   Oh well. No biggie. It's just words/thinking, which are   
   but appearance anyway.   
      
   >> Which is a long-winded way of saying that what is   
   >> *potentially* gained by not talking is the possibility   
   >> of realizing how words are an impediment to transcending   
   >> The Problem, because using them reinforces the sense of   
   >> being a being (lol) separate from ineffable reality....   
   >> ;-)   
   >   
   > Hmm, I think you're saying what I am saying. Let's not   
   > talk about it anymore. ;)   
      
   I'll try, but can't promise I'll remember.   
      
   >> See how useless words are but for chasing their own   
   >> mutually defined tails? ;-)   
   >   
   > It depends on the topic. On transcendence, I will not   
   > continue to talk.  =)   
      
   But but but but but but but but but but but but but :-)   
      
   >> Of course, "liberals" are making haste to destroy comedy,   
   >> which I believe I heard Jerry Seinfeld waxing eloquently   
   >> on a few days ago. To me, their underlying impetus is   
   >> taking the so-called self not only seriously, but far too   
   >> seriously, which is completely at odds with ever seeing   
   >> how that notion of a self is at the very heart of The   
   >> Problem. All selves are so real that they must be boringly   
   >> equal, to *never* be made fun of regardless how ridiculous   
   >> they become, etc.   
   >   
   > Amen! Thank god for the fedivese where non-politically   
   > correct humour still fourishes! =)   
      
   I wouldn't bet on it.   
      
   >> Violate that reality view, and yo ass is *cancelled*, baby!   
   >   
   > Would that be your black ass? Or rather... your   
   > african-american ass?   
      
   Whichever coaxes you back into discussing transcendence   
   the quickest! ;-)   
      
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