From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2024-05-06, D  wrote:   
      
   >>> Speaking polarization and US politics... yesterday I met   
   >>> a lesbian woman from Georgia who left the US for spain   
   >>> due to not liking the political atmosphere there.   
   >>   
   >> I rather appreciate when people openly identify themselves   
   >> as the kind that run from problems.   
   >   
   > Well, it is a valid strategy. If you don't like where you   
   > are, move somewhere else. I did it. Didn't like sweden,   
   > moved somewhere else, like it much better.   
   >   
   > I think if more people did this, we'd have less conflict   
   > and a generally happier population. =)   
      
   You convinced me!   
      
   In my defense (in a weird way) for being so derisive, I've   
   heard most of my life that the United States is the creme   
   de la creme of places to live. I've no hard evidence that's   
   true, but you hear something for sixty years, and it tends   
   to seem real.   
      
   In that context, people leaving for political reasons   
   seems like evidence of idiocy, because whereas "political   
   reasons" are essentially nothing but words (and, so, if   
   you want, you ignore them, and they're essentially gone   
   (of course, that presumes not listening to a "new media"   
   that sees the end of democracy - if not the world! - in   
   a candidate they don't like)), things like the economy,   
   natural resources, climate... I dunno: I just can't imagine   
   it being as good elsewhere, and would only move if I   
   became convinced it were better on most fronts elsewhere,   
   not merely "politically less worse" - especially knowing   
   what a dumpster of fiction "The News" has become.   
      
   >> This also looks like a case of intolerance - aka NATURAL   
   >> SELECTION (you know, the notion that deity-haters clung to   
   >> for a few decades as proof of their atheist superiority,   
   >> until suddenly realizing it brought with it unintended   
   >> logical consequences that are contrary to their "evolving   
   >> to perpetually be seen to be the most self-righteously   
   >> politically correct" position) - working.   
   >>   
   >> And the funniest part is it's clearly *her* intolerance   
   >> motivating a ridiculous amount of effort to escape others.   
   >   
   > Well, the downside is that some democrats move to sweden,   
   > thus reinforcing the socialist values there to my big pain,   
   > causing me to move to another country, reinforcing (well,   
   > actually the way things are going I might have to move   
   > again) the low-tax politics of that place, thus, forcing   
   > the socialists there, to move to sweden. Ping-pong is the   
   > name of the game! ;)   
      
   FWIW, you don't want to play me in ping pong. It's been   
   decades, but I've "The Inner Game" grounded muscle memory   
   that'll make you wish you'd emigrated to Spain! ;-)   
      
   > But we'll see... I'm pretty certain they will increase the   
   > taxes over time, so in 5-10 years or so, it is probably   
   > time to move again.   
      
   Is your middle name 'Strategy' by any chance?   
      
   >> Naughty naughty! Tsk tsk tsk!   
   >>   
   >> See the insane hypocrisy of the modern superior morality   
   >> ilk? Others are supposed to accept her life choices/style,   
   >> but she doesn't have to accept theirs. Instead, she flees   
   >> to what she perceives to be the nearest social walled   
   >> garden.   
   >   
   > Difficult to say actually... we chatted for about 10   
   > minutes or so. ;) But in general, having people move to   
   > where they are happier I see as a good thing.   
      
   Yep... yep... get it now!   
      
   >>> I find it fascinating that you so dislike the political   
   >>> and polarized atmosphere in your country, that you decide   
   >>> to leave. Well, 1 point for Trump I guess, because this   
   >>> democrat has at least a 7 hour drive to the closest   
   >>> american embassy so doubt she will vote this autumn.   
   >>   
   >> Methinks a better person would stay to try to change it   
   >> instead of sustaining self-inflicted tail-between-the-legs   
   >> burns.   
   >   
   > But why would you waste your time trying to change a   
   > country or politics? Wouldn't that be the absolute best   
   > example of stupidity?  Having spend all your life moving   
   > the needle one degree? Instead you could have lived your   
   > life, with someone who likes you, in a place you like,   
   > and let the stupid people play politics and be constantly   
   > unhappy.   
   >   
   > Politics is the art of making everyone equally   
   > miserable. Voting with your feet moving to a place that   
   > accepts you and your values, and doesn't steal your hard   
   > earned cash seems like the better solution to me.   
      
   Hey, how many times to I have to type the words 'get it'   
   before you'll shift out of the relentless gear? :-)   
      
   >>> Oh, and for regular readers of this group, I can behave   
   >>> sometimes... so we did have a nice discussion on cultural   
   >>> differences between europe and the US. ;)   
   >>   
   >> LIES!!! :P   
   >   
   > Boooh! Racist!   
      
   Insanely well played!   
      
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