From: oldernow@dev.null
On 2024-05-07, D wrote:
>>>> I rather appreciate when people openly identify themselves
>>>> as the kind that run from problems.
>>>
>>> Well, it is a valid strategy. If you don't like where you
>>> are, move somewhere else. I did it. Didn't like sweden,
>>> moved somewhere else, like it much better.
>>>
>>> I think if more people did this, we'd have less conflict
>>> and a generally happier population. =)
>>
>> You convinced me!
>
> Whoa!! This is the usenet you know... no one should ever
> have to say that they were convinced!! ;)
Okay, then... my understanding *transcended* its previous
version with your assistance. :P
> Sweden: Move there if you are a lesbian socialist. You
> will be at the top of society. Also, if you don't like to
> work and enjoy living of the government, there's plenty
> of opportunity in sweden.
>
> Norway: Like sweden, but with higher salaries and more time
> off. I call it the laziest country in the world. Without
> their oil, the country would collapse.
>
> Switzerland: Europes libertarian little utopia for the
> masses (that means you're not wealthy enough to move to
> Monaco). But very culturally conservative, and very closed
> to foreigners, so for me it was the most boring country
> I ever lived in.
>
> USA (Chicago): Since I was studying and working illegally
> on the side it is difficult to compare with the others
> where I have worked and not studied. But I'd say that
> it felt like a Switzerland (very conservative compared
> with europe) but with higher taxes than switzerland but
> more fun and open people. About the people though, the
> problem was that it was very easy to superficially get to
> know someone. You could go to a bar and talk with people
> and they didn't think you were crazy (in sweden you don't
> talk to strangers in a bar, they will think you are crazy)
> but it was very difficult to "get under the skin" of an
> american and get to know them on a personal level.
>
> So those are some of my examples. Currently, as regular
> readers of my texts might know, I'm thinking of moving
> either to the US, Bahamas, southern switzerland or perhaps
> one of the channel islands. The idea is to move within 5
> to 10 years or so and semi-retire.
My garsh, that's some of the most useful information I've
ever read in USENET - if not online altogether!
I used to want to live somewhere in the region defined by
the states of Kentucky and Tennesse, but almost entirely
for climate reasons. But, thankfully, "global warming"
(ooops... sorry... "CLIMATE CHANGE"... ) is come
around just in time to possibly cause my current latitude
really please for the rest of my life.
After that, well, good luck y'all! ;-)
>> In that context, people leaving for political reasons
>> seems like evidence of idiocy, because whereas "political
>> reasons" are essentially nothing but words (and, so, if
>> you want, you ignore them, and they're essentially gone
>
> That is a strong point in your favour. If you're a
> lesbian american, you don't _have_ to socialize with Trump
> supporters or fundamentalist christians. I am certain that
> in a country of 300+ million you would be able to find a
> community where you would be welcomed and feel at home.
Not to mention scream at screens together - or, better yet,
organize and *maybe* attend a rally/protest - whenever
information contrary to socio-political group beliefs
manages to slip through typically extremely effective
filtering/editing/canceling/shunning techniques/mechanisms,
e.g. judicial system weaponization, unadjusted "jobs"
numbers, stories about how society *really* goes in the
absence of law enforcement.
>> (of course, that presumes not listening to a "new media"
>> that sees the end of democracy - if not the world! - in
>> a candidate they don't like)), things like the economy,
>
> It will be hilairous when Trump wins, and the world
> wakes up the day after and the world is still there
> and not burning! Talk about most media being completely
> wrong! Or... Trump might jump up in the saddle of his
> horse, along with his 3 vice presidents, and ride all over
> the world setting it all on fire! ;)
It's going to look like burning regardless what's really
happening because their gospel - aka news/friend - told
them it *is* burning.
*That's* how sadly pathetic most of this species are.
>> natural resources, climate... I dunno: I just can't imagine
>> it being as good elsewhere, and would only move if I
>> became convinced it were better on most fronts elsewhere,
>> not merely "politically less worse" - especially knowing
>> what a dumpster of fiction "The News" has become.
>
> Also remember the friends and family bonus. If you have
> friends and family in a country, it is much harder to
> leave them and move somewhere else.
>
> That's the reason I'm not yet ready to move to the
> US. Being at least an 8 hours flight away from my elderly
> father is not something I'd like to be. Now I'm 1 hour
> away by plane, and even that sometimes gives me a bad
> conscience.
>
> I actually am thinking about what to do with him if he
> would ever need serious constant medical care, and I don't
> know. I do know that elderly (and no we're talking 80+
> here) seem to like being treated by people who speak their
> native language and not a second language, so that would
> be a reason against moving him to me, but boy would it be
> unpleasant having to move back to sweden for that. Well,
> time will tell, that is 100% certain. ;)
He's going to love Kentucky/Tennessee! ;-)
>> But we'll see... I'm pretty certain they will increase the
>> taxes over time, so in 5-10 years or so, it is probably
>> time to move again.
>
> Is your middle name 'Strategy' by any chance?
> You wouldn't be the first person to call me by that
> name. ;) Some people marvel at the level of my mid- and
> long term plans. I sometimes get the feeling that it is
> perhaps not normal for people to have plans extending 5,
> 10, 20 years ahead in the future. But hey, I am who I am,
> as god said (Exodus 3:14). ;)
Oh, sure! You get to tease around the periphery of
transcendence, but I'm an evil Trump/Hitler/Satan when I
do it! :-)
>>> Politics is the art of making everyone equally
>>> miserable. Voting with your feet moving to a place that
>>> accepts you and your values, and doesn't steal your hard
>>> earned cash seems like the better solution to me.
>>
>> Hey, how many times to I have to type the words 'get it'
>> before you'll shift out of the relentless gear? :-)
>
> Apologies! That was racist of me! =(
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