From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2024-05-09, D  wrote:   
      
   > As you all know there's been an awful lot of talking   
   > about transcendence, but perhaps not so much concrete and   
   > specific stuff.   
      
   That's because a key aspect of transcendence is realizing   
   that what we tell ourselves is "concrete and specific   
   stuff" is actually a seeming field of purely conceptual   
   notions whose discrimination - i.e. setting each apart   
   from each other in varying degrees of relationship - is   
   nothing but thoughts of instances of "stuff" accompanied   
   by the belief that they - and the self believed to be   
   apprehending/knowing them - are not merely thoughts, but   
   "concrete and specific stuff".   
      
   > I thought I'd rectify that by watching the documentary The   
   > Spirit Molecule yesterday evening, which explores the uses   
   > of DMT.   
      
   It's unlikely even more words can rectify anything but   
   word inconsistencies (and, even then, that depends on   
   whose conceptuality context (aka mind) you ask...),   
   but I'm listening.   
      
   > The documentary was incomprehensible and mostly consisted   
   > of people talking about their trips. ;)   
      
   *Talking*? You mean it was nothing but words? And here   
   I thought you were going to be bringing us "concrete and   
   specific stuff"!   
      
   > But... it does raise some interesting speculations. Is the   
   > brain just an antenna receiving its order from somewhere   
   > else? Do extra-dimensional beings exist? Does DMT remove   
   > all "screens" and filters from our conscious minds enabling   
   > us to experience the "raw" radio traffic of the universe as   
   > it really is? Since our brains are not created to receive   
   > that, the result is very weird trips when the brain tries   
   > to make sense of what it receives.   
   >   
   > Of course no proof what so ever, but still fun to think   
   > about the ideas and theories they propose.   
      
   I know! Let's create a drinking game around it so it can   
   be even more fun!   
      
   > And for those of you who prefer more down to earth magic,   
   > I recommend the documentary Deceptive Practice which is   
   > about the legendary card magician Ricky Jay.   
   >   
   > Enjoy! =)   
      
   I'm too afraid it'll tell me how the magic works, thereby   
   transforming it from glorious *magic* to just more words?   
      
   --   
   oldernow   
   xyz001 at nym.hush.com   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)