From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2024-05-29, D  wrote:   
      
   >>> Maybe we should start a _philosophical_ thread about   
   >>> Trump? Maybe that would take us back to planet earth? ;)   
   >>   
   >> Amidst a whole lot of yawning on my end....   
   >   
   > Come on... wake up! Isn't now the time when the   
   > temperature is slowly increasing to culminate in a   
   > political election frenzy after the summer?  Don't you   
   > feel the adrenaline? The unstoppable urge to vote to make   
   > society a better place? ;)   
      
   That seems too much like joining the circus to transmute   
   the three rings to pentagrams.   
      
   >> I mean, I was already convinced most humans were idiots.   
   >   
   > But isn't that why Trump is needed? The idiots needs a   
   > strong leader to guide them! ;)   
      
   That covers half of the idiots. The rest apparently need   
   a senile, lying sack of corruption shit to guide them.   
      
   And you do understand I'm being generous, right? :-)   
      
   >> I'll repeat it for your benefit:   
   >   
   > Thank you very much!   
   >   
   > I don't know what to believe. On the one hand, my   
   > favourite argument against wokeness and identity politics   
   > is that if you sub-divide enough times, you end up with   
   > _individualism_. ;) So the below could be looked at from   
   > that angle.   
   >   
   > Then you have the teasing angle of human unnaturalness   
   > being the nature of humans. In fact, since it is nature,   
   > we have no other choice. ;)   
   >   
   > Then you have the boring path of the fact that we have   
   > common biologies, organs, and common feelings and ways   
   > to react. Common feelings and for instance, habits such   
   > as gift giving, or responding in kind, being things which   
   > have repeated across numerous cultures and peoples.   
   >   
   > Just some interpretations that come to mind. =)   
      
   I think (haha) the biologies / organs / feelings /   
   reactions / etc. are concomitant with . *But*   
   once named/labeled, said names/labels somehow become   
   standin's for them in an emerging re-presentational   
   dream - but specific to each representational context,   
   i.e. seeming individual mind. That's the slippery slope   
   to babble on. Once the words/names/labels become more   
   important than the underlying ineffable realities, the   
   situation is necessarily the madness of the same words   
   meaning different things to/in different minds - a madness   
   nourished by every embracing of words as though realities.   
      
   Like writing USENET newsgroup posts, for example....   
      
      
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