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   On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, vallor wrote:   
      
   > On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 13:12:08 +0100, Richmond  wrote in   
   > <86h6eaxm1z.fsf@example.com>:   
   >   
   >> oldernow  writes:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2024-06-02, Richmond  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> I've decided to silently smile in the face of social "solutions" that   
   >>>>> ignore the fundamental role of people behaving self-centric-ally,   
   >>>>> because those unable to see it *are* it, so of *course* they can't   
   >>>>> see it any more than the eye can see itself sans a mirror.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There's no fix for that but to fix that.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Find the mirror that leads you to seeing what really needs fixing.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What about game theory?   
   >>>   
   >>> Beats me. What is it?   
   >>   
   >> The theory which says among other things that in some situations   
   >> everyone is better off if they co-operate than if they act in their own   
   >> interests. It was popularised in the film 'Beautiful Mind' about John   
   >> Nash, although I don't think the scene described there ever took place.   
   >   
   > That's one aspect of game theory.  It is part of information theory,   
   > part of mathematics.   
   >   
   > Some folks think a system of ethics can be derived from game theory.   
   >   
   > One of the "games" in game theory is the Prisoner's Dilemma.  I've found   
   > this to be a classic resource on the topic:   
   >   
   > https://www.spectacle.org/995/   
   >   
   > (From "The Ethical Spectacle"), c. 1995.   
   >   
   > I've thought about this for years, including how the Golden   
   > Rule figures in to ethics and the PD.  And frankly, I'm still   
   > no expert -- it's as inscrutable now as its ever been, when   
   > regarding human nature.   
   >   
   >   
      
   For the ethics part, have a look at Gaultiers contractarianism and   
   Narveson is also a good philosopher talking about it. Proud tradition   
   since the philosopher Epicurus.   
      
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