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   vallor to Richmond   
   Re: Social solution myths   
   04 Jun 24 10:37:09   
   
   From: vallor@cultnix.org   
      
   On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 13:12:08 +0100, Richmond  wrote in   
   <86h6eaxm1z.fsf@example.com>:   
      
   > oldernow  writes:   
   >   
   >> On 2024-06-02, Richmond  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> I've decided to silently smile in the face of social "solutions" that   
   >>>> ignore the fundamental role of people behaving self-centric-ally,   
   >>>> because those unable to see it *are* it, so of *course* they can't   
   >>>> see it any more than the eye can see itself sans a mirror.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There's no fix for that but to fix that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Find the mirror that leads you to seeing what really needs fixing.   
   >>>   
   >>> What about game theory?   
   >>   
   >> Beats me. What is it?   
   >   
   > The theory which says among other things that in some situations   
   > everyone is better off if they co-operate than if they act in their own   
   > interests. It was popularised in the film 'Beautiful Mind' about John   
   > Nash, although I don't think the scene described there ever took place.   
      
   That's one aspect of game theory.  It is part of information theory,   
   part of mathematics.   
      
   Some folks think a system of ethics can be derived from game theory.   
      
   One of the "games" in game theory is the Prisoner's Dilemma.  I've found   
   this to be a classic resource on the topic:   
      
   https://www.spectacle.org/995/   
      
   (From "The Ethical Spectacle"), c. 1995.   
      
   I've thought about this for years, including how the Golden   
   Rule figures in to ethics and the PD.  And frankly, I'm still   
   no expert -- it's as inscrutable now as its ever been, when   
   regarding human nature.   
      
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