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      From: nospam@example.net               This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,        while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.              Found this article and thought that you might be interested. What will       happen when we no longer have a shared world of facts which we can refer       to?               Weird interaction with a student this week. They keep coming up with       weird “facts” (“Greek is actually a combination of four other       languages”)       that left me baffled. I said let’s look this stuff up together, and they       said OK, I’ll open a search bar, and they opened … Ch*tGPT. And I was like       “this is not a search bar” and they were like “yes it is, you can search       for anything in here”.               The thing that made me feel crazy is like, every kid that’s using this       as a browser is getting new bespoke false “facts”. This isn’t “a       widespread misconception about X that stems from how it’s taught in       schools.” Each individual kid is now hooked into a Nonsense Machine.               With the “widespread misconception about X” you can start at a       baseline. Like, OK, in tenth grade we talk about X thing from history, and       that leaves us with some misguided concepts about X, but we can correct       that as students get broader understandings of the world. But with this,       each child is getting unique wrong facts they are sure are correct …       because they did what we told them to do! They “looked it up”! They got it       from somewhere! It’s not a kid making up a belief on hearsay and       assumption … it’s something they think they learned.               This kid was extremely combative with me, and I understood why. I was       sitting in front of him telling him that the internet, a computer,       technology, all these supposedly authoritative things … were wrong. And       that I, one person, was right. He basically couldn’t believe me. He       decided that I was simply a teacher who’d made a mistake. He could check       it, after all! He could look it up! He could find the real facts. I       obviously hadn’t done that, I was just an adult who’d decided I was       smarter than him. Hence the defensiveness. Like I said: I understood.               It was so fucking rough. I did my best, but I am one person trying to       work against a campaign of misinformation so vast that it fucking       terrifies me. This kid is being set up for a life lived entirely inside       the hall of mirrors.              Transcribed from Twitter. The author took it down because of harassment,       so I am not going to point to who they were. Not that I know anything       about them anyway. So you have to make your own tricky call about whether       and how it is relevant.              https://miniver.blogspot.com/2024/07/ai-students-and-epistemic-crisis.html       .              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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